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Can't stand this guy


A comic book actor who happened to get lucky being in the right comic book movies. Leaden acting and delivery, and apparently a clueless and dangerous pilot. I wish actors would just act and have some kind of limit to the number of roles they can do in order to give other people a chance. The celebrity culture we have evolved in America has not been a good thing or helpful for the country. People who grow up with it have no idea what life was like before we started giving weight to every idiotic comment someone pays an actor to spout off about in the media.

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I guess it was partially a lucky break to be cast as both Han Solo and Indiana Jones. But some talent had to be involved. I mean, he may not be the greatest actor but he has that particular "something" that comes across on the screen. Charisma just can't be taught or learned. Some actors have it and some don't.

I haven't seen a whole lot of his movies but I've enjoyed the ones that I have seen. For me he has a soothing yet dynamic screen presence.

The studios would never agree to any "quota" system where an actor could do only a certain number of roles per year. That is unless the actor's films bombed and he started losing money for the studio! It's all in the box office. Follow the money, as they say.

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Yes he has (or had) that 'x' factor only a few male movie actors have.. the ones that became the mega stars - Bogart, Flynn, Stewart, Grant, Brando, Dean, Wayne, Lancaster, Douglas, Heston, Clint, Connery, Caine, Newman, Redford, McQueen, Travolta, Stallone, Arnold, Mel, Bruce, Keanu, Brad, Leo etc... (he's probably the biggest one in terms of box office)

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> I mean, he may not be the greatest actor

Yeah, Like Trump is not the greatest President ... and I don't mean to start a political conversation - just a joke.

I look at Harrison Ford as the equivalent of a male bimbo. I'd bet he has plenty of $MeToo stories from his very early days, but for better or worse he has done OK for himself. I don't like him because he is a right-winger, and anyone who makes such amazingly easy money and has such a job that as you say had a lot of luck involved should have a higher political conscience.

You're not telling me anything new when you say that the "powers in charge" will not change anything ... that is the #1 problem in American corruption, again no political intentions there. As the world is shrinking so are opportunities and so really good jobs have to be paid for in some currency ... and there are a lot of under the table so to speak currencies.

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you don't mean to start a political conversation , but your entire beef with him is because of his political views?

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Not really, sorry if I gave you that impression, as I have said he was a cute ( not to me ) male face, at the time the other bookend to Mark Hamill and neither of them were ever known for their acting talent. Ford's success is not because of talent, so that's two other reasons I don't like him.

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People have way more than two reasons for not liking YOU...

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Brux is a giant douchebag of a troll, something I'm sure he's well aware of.

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He's a Democrat and a Trump and Bush hater.

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That's a strong reaction!

I don't mind Harrison. He's physically one of the most magnetic of all actors and I have to say I've never seen a performance from him that seemed leaden or wooden or unconvincing. He may be a grumpy old c**t now and his films haven't really been on my radar for the past decade or so, but I'd still rank him as one of top film stars of all time.

I feel you may be more put off by his political views, rather than him being a truly terrible performer. Personally I prefer to ignore most actor's political opinions if I can. I certainly don't watch Clint Eastwood films with a grudge about him being a Trump supporter, it would just sully everything I love about that man's work.

Do you really think that Ford, in his current age group, is preventing other actors from getting a chance though? I think he's in his twilight years and is no great threat to anyone's employment, but maybe I misunderstood you.

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> I feel you may be more put off by his political views, rather than him being a truly terrible performer.

You have your point of view. I'll let you have it. So don't try to argue me out of my point of view or discount it. Ford is an irresponsible rich person in my opinion. When irresponsible people in general have significant amounts of wealth and power it is never good for a society.

I believe is is both a bad actor ... more of less of a bad irresponsible person. I'd say Clint Eastwood is too. I don't like Eastwood, but I "cancelled" him I believe the word is back when he started to get political. This is a guy that got elected based on the illogical BS that people saw him in movies. This is not a good reason to elect someone, so I also think he is a fake and a sellout. Too much of that these days.

Considering that anything Ford gets hired for is on the basis of that illogical emotional attachment to his image - yeah I do think anything he gets these days takes away from others.

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"You have your point of view. I'll let you have it. So don't try to argue me out of my point of view or discount it."

I really wasn't. I actually spent some time framing that statement so it wouldn't seem accusatory.

That's fine, we have different ways of looking at things and separating the artist from their work, it's not a bad thing and I honestly wasn't trying to suggest you are wrong for your stance. Maybe, just maybe, you are a little over sensitive because if you read what I wrote again I think you may find I was just trying to engage in your conversation in a friendly way. It's a discussion forum, after all, so to suggest I'm trying to argue you out of a point of view or discount your thoughts is curious when you opened the topic up for discussion yourself.

Anyway, no hard feelings. And no more Harrison Ford movies for you, it's no good for your blood pressure ;)

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> what I wrote again I think you may find I was just trying to engage in your conversation in a friendly way.

OK. Great. I appreciate that and will take you at your word. I will add, that it is hard to actually do that online - it takes more through that one would suspect.

Like I feel I opened the topic for discussion, not for offbeat guesses about my motives or personality.

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I agree with you partially. Ford is a bad actor who coasted by on his charisma and charm. He never really took on challenging or diverse roles (The Mosquito Coast notwithstanding).

On the case of politics, Ford is not a right-winger and has been very outspoken with his criticism of Trump.

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You are such a freaking hypocrite. You must be a mod...

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If to be a good actor means to entertain millions of people around the world, then he is indeed one of the best. In order to have his success you need something more than "luck".

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Here's a simple solution socialists like you would love. Cap their salary at 1M per year. Top actors would only do one movie or several TV episodes. Others might just switch to drug dealing.

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No need to do that... just tax their income at 100% for every dollar they earn over a million.

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haha . harsh . I'd let em keep 5%

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Taxing or capping the income is not socialism. He would still make per year 100 times what brux makes ,)

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He's a terrible actor who has been in some decent movies just because of connections he has or some "reputation" he has developed. He doesn't even act. He plays the exact same dull man, that is himself, in every movie.

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"He plays the exact same dull man, that is himself, in every movie."

I'd forgive that if he wasn't such a crumpy nowadays. He used to have a huge on screen charisma (in the 70's and 80's).

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He's as dull in Blade Runner as he is in every other movie.

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STFU, Brux, you stinking cunt!

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Acting abilities haven't really changed among the top leading actors in nearly 100 years. The only really big change that has happened is that the studios don't control actors and keep the idiots from going out and spouting off their often uneducated and even more often divisive views to the world. If actors had a brain in their head which apparently none have... they wouldn't go out making statements that are only going to alienate a segment of the audience. I think more of them should look at Michael Jordan who refused to wade into given a political endorsement to a black candidate in his home state because he knew it would alienate some of his fans. That was the smartest thing he could have done, and most actors should look at that as a lesson in whether to open their mouth about any little pet cause they might like... If they were smart they would know that for every person that might like their little cause there are as many and often times more people that hate that cause.

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I guess "common sense and commercial awareness in the age of mass communication" is an extra job for their agents to instill in them.

On the other hand its nice to see real peoples opinions , rather than robotic scripted gladhanding you see them doing on talk shows and awards

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Have you seen the casting scenes for Star Wars? Harrison Ford was by far the best actor, and he was not even there for the part.

Yeah, he has a style that doesn't always fit, but what do you want him to be? Other great actors have their own style too.

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