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What is the biggest scam in life that nobody wants to admit?


I'd say Religion.

--Michael D. Clarke

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College

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college inst a scam , it's capitalism that is a scam. show me why capitalism is good? because i took my damn pills and inflation and oppression has got me to my current situation

yes maybe i shouldnt of been addicted to porn and having behavioral issues resulting in it but thats besides the point, still doesnt change the fact that i have been oppressed

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Automobiles

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I'd love to see more public transportation, but the automobile gives us the freedom to go where we want, when we want.

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The way they are build nowadays it's a scam, planned obsolescence in every single component

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I don't know man. All my cars lasted beyond 100k miles and were very reliable, but like all machines, they require care.

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AMWAY

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I had never heard of Amway until I was in the military, there were a few Amway guys here and there (this is back in the 1980s). There was no reason to buy any of their products over stuff you could get in any supermarket or Walmart, let alone the stores on the base. I remember one marine who thought he was going to set the world on fire by getting involved with Amway. He bought himself an attaché case and I remember being at work and he set the case down, opened it up and rummaged around like he was a real high level businessman or something. He finds a little bottle of Amway breath spray and with a flourish, sprays his throat. This was his sales demonstration :) I guess we were all supposed to rush over to him with dollars in hand desperate to buy.

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Totally agree with religion.

Also US health care is a scam money maker from what I can make out.

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I totally see both sides to religion.

But the interesting thing is, that while we move further from it, that parallels with things turning more to shit while losing our moral compass, don't you agree?

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no.... not in any way. you can be an extremely more agnostic.

and theres plenty of disgusting immoral theists.

the only difference is i prescribe to humanism and have to actually think through ad justify my morals, theists prescribe to their a la carte opinions about which rules they cherry pick and want to follow

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I also agreed and disagree. Overall, there is really really bad on both sides, and good on both sides. It can seem very situational.

Yes, many religious folks pick and choose - where they are not supposed to - just like non-religious who do the same. I've known non-rel people who think through their own moral justifications and come up with their own version that is like "F everyone else, I'm in it for me, do what I want, because I can" no conscience, no guilt. And that is seemingly okay to them. They literally have zero path for good and evil to work from. At least religious folk have that guilt factor to sort of help. ;)

Good example of all this is the whole progressive/liberal/(whatever it is called this minute and I can't keep up with the constant changes) attitude, about who to hate and cancel next. It seems none are on the same page, follows no sustainable path, is all over the map often self contradicting each other. They cancel each other out even. Lacking a standard of guidence.

Some murderers are fine with THIER justifications. I feel it is best to have some kind of ground work.

Additionally, we could say the world could be a better place with zero religion, but that is nothing more than speculative dreamspeak as there is NO WAY we could ever know how that would go becauce our world has nearly always had religion in the foundations.
Maybe we could run some kind of SIMS simulation of that? :D

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i think its like the movie idiocracy (2006) which in my view is a condemnation of a causally christian/humanist worldview. a humanist normally believes monogamy is not natural.

2 choices for the movie to avoid idiocracy (or we deal with it), i think are more religion or more science (eugenics).

if the football qb had a stronger christian morality maybe he wouldnt be impregnating as many women as he could. he would get married and have children at a slower rate and in a structured community.

if he's too dumb to control himself (without religious moral guidance), he should be sterilized for the sake of human society. we need a government to decide the moral equality to limit a person from a procreational abuse.

personally i know alot of junkies/convicts that find religion and ive come to agree with the freudian view that there are people that need the religious crutch to better their lives.

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I love this post. You brought together a couple contentions I had in a way that makes perfect sense.

Thank you for your insightful post. I will be using your ideas in conversations.

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Scam might be a broad term.

Scam is a guy selling fake tickets, but bitcoin and American government can also be scams

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Weddings. Vast fortunes spent, months of effort and stress, friendships strained, debts accumulated... and nobody even likes attending the things!

Except drunks, and former or future brides who just like to say that they would have done it all MUCH better.

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How about "Government"?

--Michael D. Clarke

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how you going to pave the roads, organize police, firefighters and military. who is going to make court rulings. whose going to monitor your imported food and make sure it isnt full of lead?

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I always say don't spend so much on your wedding that you're still paying for it after the divorce.

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