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As Others Have Noted Today Is D Day


June 6, 1944 was the turning point of WWII. Thousands gave their all to free the world of the “cancer” taking over brought on by Hitler and the NAZIS. Yet, how are most people aware of the importance of that day 75 years ago today? At the risk of boring those who were born so many years later, TV news has brought the event to the forefront.

That day and the sacrifices made for freedom isn’t taught in schools. The schools are too busy having to teach how to be politically correct. The gender neutral group, the he/she group, the “Me Too” group, the “Black Lives Matter” group, the Antifa thugs, the “Impeach Trump”, etc., pales in comparison to the events of that very important day. Hell, the day isn’t even noted on most calendars! How sad.

We are losing about 400 a day of those brave souls. I am a part of the next generation, born in 1943, who are also fading away. After us who will speak of those who in their early 20’s stormed the 5 beaches of Normandy?

Utah Beach:
“In the predawn darkness of June 6, thousands of U.S. paratroopers dropped inland behind enemy lines. Weighed down by their heavy equipment, many drowned in the flooded marshlands at the rear of the beach, and others were shot out of the sky by enemy fire. One even hung from a church steeple for two hours before being captured.”

Omaha Beach:
“Surrounded by steep cliffs and heavily defended, Omaha was the bloodiest of the D-Day beaches, with roughly 2,400 U.S. troops turning up dead, wounded or missing.”

Juno Beach:
“At Juno, Allied landing craft once again struggled with rough seas, along with offshore shoals and enemy mines. Upon finally disembarking, Canadian soldiers were then cut down in droves by Germans firing from seaside houses and bunkers. The first hour was particularly brutal, with a casualty rate approaching 50 percent for the leading assault teams.”

There was also Gold Beach and Sword Beach. My uncle would not speak of that day, June 6, 1944. He operated a landing craft....only to watch his comrades in arms being slaughtered. He lost a great deal of himself that long ago day.

I ask again who will remember that very important day and the bravery it took to achieve? The day when an evil scourge would soon be overtaken.

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I'm watching the colorized documentary "D-Day Sacrifice - Battle of Normandy" right now.

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The Longest Day is on TCM right now.

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And I’m watching Band of Brothers.

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I'm watching it.

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Love that ending with Mitchum.

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I liked the scenes where the armada was appearing on the morning of the 6th, to the horror of the Nazis witnessing it.

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it was very well done.

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It was ! It looked identical to much of the actual footage I've seen in documentaries.

This is a somewhat lengthy article but nevertheless, a fascinating and worthwhile read: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/magazine/d-day-normandy-75th-ernie-pyle.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Thanks db!
How can someone read this article and coldly state: “Forget about it. Move on. It was 75 years ago.” To the few who are still living and were a part of the landing force, tell them to “Forget about it! It was 75 years ago.” Then watch those brave souls’ eyes well with tears.

From the article about war correspondent Ernie Pyle:

“By allowing the objects he saw in the sand to tell an eloquent story of loss, Pyle showed his readers the true cost of the fighting, without explicitly describing the blood and mangled bodies. “It extends in a thin little line, just like a high-water mark, for miles along the beach,” Pyle wrote about the detritus of the battle. “Here in a jumbled row for mile on mile are soldiers’ packs. Here are socks and shoe polish, sewing kits, diaries, Bibles and hand grenades. Here are the latest letters from home. . . . Here are toothbrushes and razors, and snapshots of families back home staring up at you from the sand. Here are pocketbooks, metal mirrors, extra trousers and bloody, abandoned shoes.”

By the end of the column, Pyle’s readers were confronted with outright horror: “As I plowed out over the wet sand of the beach,” Pyle wrote, “I walked around what seemed to be a couple of pieces of driftwood sticking out of the sand. But they weren’t driftwood. They were a soldier’s two feet. He was completely covered by the shifting sands except for his feet. The toes of his G.I. shoes pointed toward the land he had come so far to see, and which he saw so briefly.”

Yeah, forget about it!

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Tough stuff to read K

We rememember

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I thanked db for posting the link. I read these words several times while recalling news footage. The words continue to chill me. How brave these men were....fully aware death was before them.

We can envision the horror through the good works of movie directors, but we can turn it off. When I look into the faces of those who were there and tears still come after 75 years, you know they haven’t turned it off....they have NOT FORGOT!

How selfish to say “Forget about it! It was 75 years ago!” This coming from someone who has no skin in the game! He should do some research about Hitler’s horrors. Do research about how the Jews desperately attempted to reach his country, Switzerland. Attempt to locate some of those still living to ask them if they were grateful for the Americans and their allies.

Switzerland was on Hitler’s radar. “Even though the Swiss stance of neutrality benefited Germany in some regards — for example, by *providing financial services to Nazis* — Hitler wanted to own Switzerland”.

Now that is something to be proud of isn’t it, Knish? Financial services to the Nazis! How great it is! But, he was coming for ye! “If Hitler had his way, Switzerland would not have been a neutral sovereign; it would have been a German territory.“

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I don't give a shit what my forefathers did. I make my own life. I understand it for your generation though, America is a joke to the rest of the world. You have nothing to be proud of now so you need to go back 75 years when people still respected your country.

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“You have nothing to be proud of now”...and you do? Oh, I forgot! Chocolate! Yay! Chocolate!

BTW, I don’t see people on rafts trying to get to other countries.

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You forgot watches, cheese, skiers and...um...cuckoo clocks.

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You're more than welcome, kap. I'm glad the article was meaningful for you.

This guy was just as popular and famous as Pyle in portraying the life of the American G.I. during the war, but with a different talent: https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+mauldin+cartoons&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjfiIfdidviAhUngK0KHdNaD-kQiR56BAgJEBQ&biw=1280&bih=619

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Thank you for taking the time to post this. 👍

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We need to remember and pass it down. Our youth are not being taught what price freedom costs. All they think about is today and what benefits them. Sad but true, ignorance begets a repeat of history. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

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Not under my watch! I tell my kids all the time “I don’t care what year it is out there. In this house it’s 1982.”

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😉Great! Keep at it! BTW, why the year 1982? I feel empathy for some kids nowadays. They are taught one thing at home then have to listen to the garbage at school. They must be so conflicted. There was a time when the purpose of education was to teach reading, writing, math, history, civics, literature, etc. Nowadays it’s all PC. So many college grads are ignorant of history. Sad, but true.

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Well, I could go on for ever about what was right in 1982 as compared to what’s wrong with the present time and I bet you would agree kids were brought up the right way then. Aside from that, my kids loved Napoleon Dynamite and Uncle Rico always wanted to go back to 1982. Lol.

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I can think of one right thing in 1982....Reagan was president! 👏🏻

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I have a Reagan / Bush 84’ tee shirt I wear at least once a week. 👍

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I’m sure it’s rather faded by now, but it’s the thought that counts! 👏🏻👏🏻 You need my Reagan/Bush campaign pin to wear with it!

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Not true. Just a figment of your over-heated imagination.

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I've been watching the live coverage of the commemorative events that took place in England and France over the last couple of days.

My father and his brothers served in WW2; sadly I've forgotten what my dad told us about his war experiences, in those occasions when he would share what he'd been through, and I don't even remember if he was part of D-Day specifically. I know that my uncle was killed in the battle at El Alamein, North Africa. I wish I knew more about my dad and my other uncles' missions. They survived the war but are all deceased now. I want to start looking up their records to inform myself of what they took part in, as my one uncle's history is the only one I know for sure. There will never be a generation like them again. They sacrificed enormously.

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How long are we supposed to remember this?

It's 75 years, let it go. Most people remember it because of guilt not because they want to remember.

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We should not 'let it go' Knish
Have you had your guts shot out on some foreign shore?
I have not

We will not forget the men who assured us our freedom
It would be disgraceful to do so

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What a guilt trip.

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You'll get over it Knish
In the future, show some respect to our grandfathers👍

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You're an ass and a troll, knish. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Once again, this is a difficult and many layered subject. People want to make WW2 vets into saints, just because. The freedom we have today has many problems with it. The future might have been a lot different than we assume it to be had the Nazis kept Europe. The US is engaged as a global policeman now. Eighty percent of our taxes are going toward the Military. Is this good?

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Wouldn’t it be great if time travel was possible? We could put a uniform on this character and drop ship him on one of Normandy's beaches! Better yet have him be a paratrooper and shove him out of the plane!

Seriously, I wrote about his type in another thread. He will never comprehend what cost was paid for his freedom to spout his idiotic statements! Guilt? I have no guilt...I have pride and honor for those who gave their all....by death, by being wounded, or by living through the hell they did.

How disgustingly shameful this Knish is! We all should be thankful he wasn’t there...too many of his type would have caused a different outcome.

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Well said, kspkap! Knish is an ass and a troll!

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Way to tell'im, Shogie! Knish is an ass!

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Can we declare this "Unpopular Opinion of the Day?"

My moms first cousins father died last year and he was a WWII Veteran who landed on Normany and also fought in many other well known battles. He was buried with full military honors and I can guarantee you not one person in that room wanted to "let it go." If anything, we need to do the opposite, which is what a US Congressman did when he interviewed this hero about his experiences, one year before his death, so we will never forget...

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'We will never forget...'
Damn right

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I’m a little late in agreeing with your declaration...”Unpopular Opinion of the Day”. I cannot fathom someone writing on the 75th Anniversary of D-Day to “let it go”! We are supposed to forget about the bravery and sacrifices given to the world for freedom? The cost paid to rid the world of a malignant evil? I’m speechless!

My dad’s first cousin was lost at sea when his ship was attacked. If my dad was still living and I told him “to forget about it”....it would be the last time I uttered such an idiotic statement!

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Oh I see, you just care because of your dad's first cousin. You probably wouldn't have made this thread if he wasn't family.

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I know. Knish is a disrespectful little turd. Its hard to comprehend how someone can be so un-American and disregard such an important day in out countries history. Honestly, I'd love to see him utter those words in front of your dad or a group of veterans and see what happens.

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This is americuuhhh greatest country on the planet duhhh

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You sound like an entitled little piss ant who takes his freedom for granted. By all means, go live somewhere else. You won't be missed.

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You are a typical american assuming that I live there. Guess what? There are better countries to live.

The rest of the world laughs at those patriots who think america is the greatest for no reason.

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Sure, there are plenty of great places to live. Might I ask where your from?

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Switzerland

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Ah, yes, the cowardly Swiss who stayed neutral during WWII while everyone else fought. Shooting down Allied Bombers and holding survivors in an internment camp is something to be so proud of. That's quite the legacy.

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I am not responsible for any good or bad things they did in the past.Neither are you for american history. Boundaries are created by people, feeling pride or shame for your country's past is a silly thing which we will evolve out of in the future.

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You have no heroes to remember and honor.

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I refuse to reply to someone who has mush for brains!🤯 And trolling! So, my response is I wasn’t thinking about a family member when I posted my OP. It wasn’t until I read about your great-uncle’s funeral that brought to mind my family member. As I wrote prior I cannot fathom someone making such an idiotic statement on a day of remembrance! How cold, how callous, so devoid of empathy!

We definitely need to be thankful his type wasn’t part of the “Greatest Generation”. Shudder! Shudder!😱

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And we thank him, padeen.

BTW, knish is an ass and a troll.

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what guilt ?

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Guilty for enjoying freedom without worrying about it.

All of this remembering is just about making yourselves feel good.

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I value freedom and my father's WW 2 service.

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I'm pretty sure no one twisted your arm to pay attention to this thread. But I get it! It encroaches on your bitchy, biased thread about surfers, which is much more relevant for our posterity.

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Haha still mad about that? Obviously you have problems with letting things go.

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Still mad ? Where'd you get that idea to begin with since I never even responded to that stupid, worthless thread ? Obviously, you have a mental problem.

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You're an ass.

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Great argument

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It's not an argument, dummy. It's my opinion.

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I will answer your question by shamelessly stealing from the writers of Game of Thrones:

"Everyone in this world owes them a debt that can never be repaid. It is our duty and our honor to keep them alive in memory. For those who come after us, and those who come after them. For as long as men draw breath."

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How fitting! 👏🏻 Trouble is....people like this Knish person will never understand words such as these. Thanks!

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Imagine all the other battles there were for our freedom that you don't even know about, there will be 1000+ battles to remember if you keep going back. Oh but you don't care about those, just the one 75 years ago.

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Of course I remember other battles for freedom, dummy. Go ahead and name one that I don't know about.
It's just that June 6 is the anniversary of this one. And you're still an ass.

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Amen, and well said, Tex!

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I’ll tell you what, how about you forget all about it and allow those that wish to respectfully remember to do just that, ok?

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Ah if you're so easily offended stay of the internet.

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Why, so angry? I merely suggested live and let live.

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Amen. Well said, kspkap.

Here's to all the heroes who died that day, and every other day of that terrible war. My father served in Italy in the FSSF (dubbed The Devil's Brigade by the Germans), and was wounded at Anzio. Fortunately for our family, he survived and lived until 1991 when he passed away at 73.

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I suppose you should forget your father’s service, the wounds he suffered, and along with our allies delivered a crushing blow to Hitler’s evil. Never! 😡

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Never! That guy is an ass and a troll.

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My great uncle flew with the RAF. My grandfather was part of the British contingent that went over to the US to work on the Manhattan Project and my grandmother was a nurse. The people of that generation made so many sacrifices and I shall not forget them.

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The Brits suffered greatly! Living and surviving the bombing raids took a toll on them.

As per knucklehead:
“The rest of the world laughs at those patriots who think america is the greatest for no reason.‘

I would bet the rest of the occupied world didn’t laugh when American patriots landed at Normandy.

All the while fighting in the brutal Pacific theater against an enemy who attacked us. Yeah, the world laughed at us! NOT!

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At least I didn't use words like knucklehead and mush for brains in a discussion. It shows your lack of intelligence that you have to resort to petty little insults.

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I’m sorry, I meant to type Knish. Forget about it, OK? Typos! 🤬

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They're exactly what you deserve, you twit!

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I forgot to add my wink! wink! 😏😏 After writing “forget about it”...as it’s only words which will be old news by tomorrow....

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And if it weren't for the U.S. Military, a lot of knuckleheads would be speaking German or Japanese now.

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Outstanding. "Never have so many owed so much to so few." And we thank them!

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Ten very poignant words which says it all. 👏🏻

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Amen.

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