Robert Wagner a 'person of interest' in Natalie Wood's death
36 years after her death
https://pagesix.com/2018/02/01/robert-wagner-a-person-of-interest-in-natalie-woods-death/
Interesting. I always suspected he was hiding something.
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"Somehow ended up in water".Very interesting🤔
shareThis is making it's rounds again huh? Did the story mention the William Holden aspect?
shareYes, the theory of two lovers conspiring to have their significant others killed sounds exciting, but the truth is that William Holden was an alcoholic who fell and hit his head, slowly bleeding to death. If Robert Wagner actually did have a hand in Natalie Wood's death, then an accident seems way more likely.
As I've told many when providing info on theories that are obviously not my own...I got no dog in this fight...just thought I'd add to what is an interesting story to some😉
As for Holden's alcoholism....not shedding any new light on that subject...but .2 is far from drunk for such a prolific drinker...not to mention the fact that the corpse decomposed for four days(decomposing carcasses create alcohol biologically) so an accurate blood alcohol level would have been impossible unless a special test was preformed to differentiate ethyl from methyl...something along those lines...don't believe the test was performed. Read an excellent piece years ago that explained the theory and it delved deeply into all connections...just fun...not endorsing it as gospel...just figured many had no clue and they might find it interesting. Link I provided below touches on the alcohol level I believe...didn't have time to read it thoroughly...will later🙂
He wouldn't have had to be hammered to slip on a throw rug and fall hard, though. I read the link. The case for Holden's death being murder, if there even is a case at all, is very weak. Never heard this theory until now.
On the other hand, something never seemed right about Natalie Wood's death, and it struck me Wagner wasn't being entirely on the up and up.
It was pointed out that he was an alcoholic and at .22 it could be assumed intoxication played a part in a bathroom slip and die. Kind of think he had cancer at the time as well...that also could have contributed. Once again...just because I bring up a theory, it does not mean I endorse it...just thought folks like yourself might have been unaware of the angle and would be interested 🙂
There are also scads of theories pertaining to Walkens knowledge/involvement...but I assumed that people interested in the case were already aware of those.
Right, I understood what you were saying, and that you weren't behind the theory. I was just adding my thoughts. It is interesting to me, because I'd never heard it before.
I don't think Walken was involved, but I suspect he may know more than he's been willing to say. What do you think?
I think by legal definition if Christopher Walken knew something more than he divulged to authorities...he is in fact involved. As for my opinion of that night? Wagner did it...Walken probably knew it...not much will come of it...at least not for Chris. I also think a trial would be better to watch on the news than...politics 😉
shareYes, your opinion about that night, specifically about Walken.
My feeling is, and this is sheer speculation, Walken downplayed whatever he may have seen or heard, and suspected. I think he suspected Wagner's actions or inactions lead to her death, but had no hard evidence to offer.
We're in agreement there; I'd much rather watch a trial on this in the news than politics.
If Holden had called 911 he would have lived. He did not die immediately as his room was littered with bloody towels.
shareInteresting...odd as well...thanks buddy!
sharetissues not towels. good details here
http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/h/William%20Holden/william_holden.htm
Damn! Findadeath.com😂 Thanks again!
shareVery interesting. So they found an empty vodka bottle in the trash, plus 4 beer bottles and a partially full bottle of vodka on the kitchen sink. 8 bloody Kleenex scattered about, and there was dried blood on his hands.
Sounds pretty straightforward, and a logical conclusion that he was drunk (to whatever degree), slipped and fell, tried to stop the blood himself, probably didn't realise how badly he was injured, passed out soon afterwards primarily from loss of blood.
It is a shame the phone was right there, in easy reach, and as you pointed out, he would have lived if he'd just called 911.
I wonder why he didn't call for help?
shareGood question. He was kind of a drunken loner at the end. Sad.
shareYet according to that article he was getting married and his drink problem didn't define him.
Maybe he was bumped off and someone else was there?
William Holden had a big drinking problem and people who knew him said he was drinking again. Empty vodka bottles were found in his house at the time.
shareI can not imagine the medical examiner not taking that into consideration. But he didn't have to be heavily intoxicated, long-term alcohol addiction can affect your reflexes and motor skills. And one thing that's certain is that Holden was a prolific drinker.
shareTHAT's how he died? I had no idea.
shareJust like one of those life alert commercials...but like the worst case scenario ever!
shareInteresting. Well my father is a drunk, once fell down the stairs and cracked his head open from the hairline to the back of the head. He is still alive because we basically lock him in the house and control his intake of alcohol.
share"When they got together..."
shareNope! This will add a few more layers to this rotten onion...
http://dreamingcasuallypoetry.blogspot.com/2011/12/was-william-holdens-death-accident-or.html
Wow! Interesting read,thanks for posting.
I find it very sad that he was about to marry the love of his life after so many years of difficulty,and that she was the one who raised the alarm not Powers.
I also didn't realise Wood and Holden died within 2 weeks of one another.
It could be just coincidence,2 tragic accidents of course but something seems off.
Did Wagner and Powers have a relationship?
you are very welcome! I get powers and st.john confused...I'll check.
Only rumors...
The article doesn't seem to be correct in claiming that Powers received "most of his fortune". An article from 1981 says she inherited $250,000, while the rest of his "multimillion estate" went to his family. Stauffer and another ex each got $50,000.
Another thing I'm wondering about is that apparently Holden tried to staunch his headwound with several kleenex tissues. Would he really choose to do that instead of calling for help if he had been attacked by someone?
As for Powers not being concerned where he was. I believe they were on a break because he was drinking again.
All fair points...as mentioned earlier...not my veiw...just my post. Might want to take further critiques to the author...I'm sure he has a social media account 😉
shareThe article Hownos posted said Powers used the $250k to start an animal preservation fund in Holden's name, so she doesn't appear to have profited from it.
shareNo. While Wood's case raises questions, it seems pretty obvious to me what happened to Holden.
shareAgreed on both. On top of consuming whatever amount of alcohol he drank, he'd sustained a very hard hit to his head and was doubtless disoriented. Which explains why he wasn't making lucid decisions, such as dialing 911 for help.
Some people are just entertained by the drama of conspiracy theories, even when there's little or nothing to back them up.
We should post this under Robert Wagner so people looking for info on him can easily find it.
shareThis board generates more traffic than the other boards. We post news here so more people can see current events. With me not aware of this info, I would never have thought to go to the Robert Wagner board. We post anything and everything here.
shareI understand both of your points; however, it will still show up under "Latest Posts" (and thus be immediately visible for discussion) if it is posted on the actor's board.
By posting it under the actor, it stays for perpetuity for anyone interested in him rather than getting forever lost once the discussion moves further down in GD.
What we really need is the ability to cross-post, i.e. create one post and simultaneously publish it to General AND the relevant board. Best of both worlds.
shareThat'd be nice.
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No! You must NEVER cross the streams, Igon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wrEEd1ajz4
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There will be a special on this, "Death in Dark Water", on CBS on Saturday Feb 3 at 10 pm. I'm going to DVR it.
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CBS' 48 Hours preview
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/robert-wagner-called-person-of-interest-in-mysterious-natalie-wood-death/
Okay then. It is 48 Hours.
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What? Is this thing still going on? I always assumed that he was a "person of interest" from the moment this tragedy happened. This is nothing new. The press has been hinting foul play from the start. Have they charged him with the crime? After all of these years, NO!
Either prove that he had something to do with this lovely lady's death, or GIVE IT A REST!!
I'm with you in that I think he's always been a person of interest. I think this is just a ratings stunt. Eyewitness accounts are not always reliable anyway, even right afterwards. Years later? Call me extremely skeptical that there's anything new here.
shareI really doubt that there is anything new.
Personally, I think they had a few drinks too many that night. I figure that she may have been friendly with her co-star in the movie that she and Christopher Walken were working on. There may have been some jealousy on Wagner's part. From what other facts that were gathered, Walken went to bed. Then there was two..... What is strange is that she was afraid of the water since she was a very young girl. Something happened that night. I don't believe in the accident. Well, there may have been an accident. I don't believe that he ever wanted her dead. I'm just saying that he never admitted to what must have happened . I think that they were arguing.... there was possibly a struggle of some kind. I still think he was responsible.
And if there was drinking going on (I can't remember that detail), she may have done something out of character, like getting in the dinghy. Maybe she said she was leaving, but he thought she'd chicken out and re-board the yacht. We'll probably never know. I agree, Wagner didn't want her dead. It was a fight that got out of hand, and in that respect, he did play a role in her death.
shareI would assume that after all of these years, most people, especially the police would know this. Do something or do not do something. Just deal with it!
I think that the press is the problem. They keep stirring this pot.
There was a lot of drinking involved. They'd been drinking in the afternoon, and then Wood and Walken went on ahead to a restaurant on the island for dinner, and were drinking more. Wagner and the guy they'd hired as captain joined them (at the restaurant and in the drinking) not too long afterwards. More drinking once they returned to the boat.
I agree with MissMargo that Wagner was jealous of Walken. As I recall, Wood invited him and Wagner didn't particularly want him there. There was tension between the two men. It seems Wood and Walken had developed an easy connection while working on the set, and Wagner felt threatened by it. Things were apparently not so great between Wood and Wagner at that point and this only exacerbated the problems. Wood may have been angry and out of that anger fanned the flames of Wagner's jealousy.
I don't think Wagner wanted her dead either. I think after Walken retired, Wood and Wagner had a heated, alcohol-fueled argument. He may have struck her, as there were some bruises in question. It was a while ago when I read about this, but I seem to recall Wagner told Wood to get off of either "the" or "his" boat, and that's why she'd boarded the dingy. Maybe he was still so angry, when he heard her calls for help, he didn't respond. Or maybe he never heard her and just never went after her.
Now that I think of it, it is strange they had a boat at all, given her lifelong fear of water.