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Overrated masterpieces


Who do you think are some overrated 'masterpiece' films? I would say Citizen Kane, E.T, Interstellar, Avatar,

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The Avengers. It was good, but nothing special.

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A recent movie that gets more love than I can comprehend it deserving is The Conjuring. It's like people have never seen a ghost story before.

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I feel like anything Christopher Nolan does in recent years is immediately labeled as a masterpiece, and I'm not convinced any of his films are. Bloated, weird pacing, too much exposition, etc. I like his ideas, and what he's trying to do, but I just don't like the execution. I still love Memento, though.

And I never got the appeal of the Godfather. I've only seen the movies once, a long time ago. But I never felt compelled to rewatch them, to see if I'd change my mind.

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Mina, have you seen The Prestige? I'd like to know what you think, because I like that film and Memento very much.

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I haven't seen it yet. I've been meaning to watch it for ages, just never got around to it. Also, for some reason I always confuse it with The Illusionist with Ed Norton lol

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The two films came out at about the same time, and I have them both in my library. They are easily confused, but two very different films. I think Ed Norton is a stupendous, and underappreciated, actor and the film is wonderful, with a sound supporting cast (Paul Giamatti, Jessica Beil, Rufus Sewall, Eddie Marsan), while The Prestige has Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman, two actors who are less than Norton but locked in a struggle to the death that creates a dynamic that's at least equal to what Norton can do his own (and with a supporting cast that includes Michael Caine, Scarlett Johansson and most especially David Bowie). Please see them both. Please tell me what you . . . not think, but feel.

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I remember seeing bits of one of them on television a while back. But which one, I couldn't tell you :D

I'm a bit worried that I won't get everything I could out of The Prestige, because it got spoiled for me some time ago. But I'll check it out eventually.

I like Ed Norton, I think he's an amazing actor, so I'll add The Illusionist to my watchlist as well.

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How did The Prestige get spoiled for you, Mina? I know you will enjoy The Illusionist!

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Spoilers I guess if you haven't seen The Prestige.



I heard something about clones, so I assumed it was a plot twist of some kind.

We really need that spoiler obscuring black thing.

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Not clones, really, not as I perceive them. From what I've gotten to know of you, I think you will like this movie. Bowie is amazing.

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I love The Prestige!!!! πŸ˜ƒπŸ’œπŸ˜ƒπŸ’œ

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I hope I like it. And hopefully my feelings towards Nolan on a whole, wouldn't get in the way of my enjoyment.

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Love Memento too! Poor Leonard reminds me of me. πŸ˜–

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I hope you life isn't as bad as his was :) But, yes, poor Leonard. It's tragic what happened to him.

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Well...I DO have to write notes more often, just for simple things, or else I'll forget within 10 or 15 minutes on what it was that I was suppose to do. Or if I'm talking to someone I'll draw a complete blank and forget what I was saying. It's very frustrating and it just gets worse all the time! I get up to do something and, snap, I forget in an instant what I was going to do. What's weird is, I can remember so much from the early 2000's all the way down to 1963...when I was only 3. But, I don't remember much from 2005 and up...it's mostly a big blur. I usually don't even remember the day before each day anymore. I shutter to see what I'll be like in another 5 or 10 years from now...eeeeeekkkk!! 😱 Maybe I should get some of those "freaky tattoos"...lol. πŸ˜‰

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I rely on notes a lot as well. But then I forget to look at the note, so... And that thing with going into another room, and forgetting what about, happens to a lot of people. It even has a name I believe, but I forget :D Those tattoos seem pretty tempting to be honest lol

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Yeah, I just find myself doing them a whole lot more often...more than usual. If I write a shopping list, I always forget the list...lol. That's where the tattoos would come in handy...of course...I'd probably forget I had them...lol! πŸ˜‰

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Honestly?

Lord of the rings: I saw it at the cinema and I was bored rigid: I’ve heard the LOTR audio-books & read the Hobbit to and quite honestly I didn’t enjoy those either.

Star Wars: I saw that at the cinema when I was a kid, my dad took me to a showing of β€œReturn of the Jedi”, to be honest I found that boring to and didn’t really enjoy the other movies either.

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Saw the original Star Wars (1977), not Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope, just Star Wars, in the theatre when it first came out...I loved it so much that I saw it 12 more times! I never followed it much after that.

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The Shawshank Redemption. Ugh!

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Also, The Green Mile.

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I watched Shawshank multiple times, but The Green Mile? Once is already too many times. Ridiculous and nonsensical. I would rather watch Passion of the Christ, twice! And I'm not even a Christian.

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Isn't that an oxymoron? How can a film be overrated if it's a masterpiece?

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The one which immediately jumps out in my mind is "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." I vividly remember the buildup, the heartfelt endorsement by my favorite author, Ray Bradbury (on TV, not in print), huge write-ups in national magazines, and many details of that awful evening at the drive-in when my friend's mother took me and her youngest daughter and son to sit through an interminable succession of dramatically-rendered scenes amounting to a tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. My friend's little brother, a little older than the main boy in the movie, mercifully had the good sense and good luck to sleep through part of it but the rest of us just sat stunned and staring, hoping that it would eventually come together and amount to a meaningful narrative, as our hopes slowly deflated and our spirits were dashed and downcast though stopping short of crushed. We were at least momentarily amused by the little ball of light following the larger craft. I've never had the patience to sit through it since but when I have caught parts on TV the scenes I see have that same irritating, exasperating effect. The boy smashing the doll against the crib is nails on a blackboard Chinese water torture, and one of the few fairly brilliant moments--the director knew just when to have the father intervene before the audience totally lost its last shreds of patience and sanity.

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