Note: I am being serious with this topic and I am genuinely curious what people think.
I support Black Lives Matter. It is important to highlight and prevent acts of racism in our country and around the world - especially toward Black people. We need to raise awareness of bias and discrimination in order to have a more fair society.
I mean, it sounds nice in principle, but that's kind of a kafkatrap of trying to get me to agree with something because it sounds like it has good ideals and being shocked or appalled if I don't. I think it's just founded on the idea that most problems for black people come from white people being racist to them. Black people are killed by their fellow black person at far higher numbers and rates than white people (or cops), yet I've never seen BLM say anything about it or hold any protests or anything, do those black lives not matter? Do black lives only matter when it's a white person ending them?
I'm not even saying racism isn't a problem, but I think the framing of the discussion around it is ultimately unhealthy for the Western world.
Should have called it Black Lives Also Matter. Then their acronym would be BLAM! Fitting.
shareI believe the lives of Black Americans that contribute to society are essential.
I do not support the Burn, Loot, Murder movement.
There is no BurnLootMurder movement. It's just a political feint to rally dummies who find it funny to equate BLM to a different BLM, so jug heads get their moment to feel smart.
shareI support the belief that the lives of black people matter as much an everyone else's lives. I oppose racism and intolerance of any kind and completely support equality for all.
shareNo.
There's a lot to sort through here.
There is no remedy to cure the 400+ years of this nation's history of slavery and other oppressions of Black Americans. This will always be a stain.
The other reality is that Black Americans ARE on an upward trajectory from where they were in 1934, 1944, 1954, 1964... and that upward trajectory has been at the expense, largely, of white men, and that is unavoidable and just. Bear with me.
Consider the white man born in Alabama in 1948, son of a "Greatest Generation" survivor of the Great Depression and veteran of WWII. This child's father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc. was probably able to get a job after high school at the police department, the fire department, the public utility, etc., and earn a living wage with benefits, pension, etc. And for the most part, Black Americans couldn't even get the application for that job. And in a lot of those places Blacks made up 30% of the population.
Come 1966 when this child graduates high school and he goes to apply at the police department, he now has to compete with 99 other candidates instead of the 69 candidates his father had to compete with, and in fact he is FURTHER disadvantaged because of affirmative action which says the police department has to get to 30% Black sooner rather than later. (Which I say is also unavoidable and just.)
That HAD to sting BADLY. 1966 was not a long time ago. This is what we've been dealing with for the last 50+ years.
And this is not just Alabama, but everywhere to a certain degree.
There is no remedy to cure the 400+ years of this nation's history of slavery and other oppressions of Black Americans. This will always be a stain.
Hard no. In their eyes, all cops are guilty whenever there's an incident between a police officer and a black person. They're biased. EXTREMELY biased.
I look at each case individually. If the person is the victim of police brutality, I side with them. If force was warranted, I side with the police. This is how people should form conclusions, but most don't. They care about politics, not the truth.
I don't support defund the police because every city and state is different but if that what it takes to get free healthcare and education and a better environment and better social support programs, I guess that what it takes. We should be able to vote for those things.
though I think a doctor who is underpaid by the government probably won't do as good as a job (or as free healthcare evolves it will lose quality that it has currently eventually) I'm a bit conflicted.
There are very few posts I’ve seen on this site that bother me as much as reading this one.
How many more handouts do you want? Not a big fan of personal responsibility, are you.
Free education? Like K-12??? Isn’t that free enough for you? Oh, you need college too? Here’s an idea...pick a college major that makes enough money to pay off your student loans...once again, it’s called personal responsibility.
Or you could just sit on your couch with your thumb up your ass and continue to beg the government to take care of you. Have a great night AOC.
I also wish people who even consider removing the police in this country would wear a shirt or something that says so, so when they actually need the police they hate so much to help them the cops can just tell them to piss off.
We’re in BIG trouble as a country the more these people support this socialist garbage. How the hell did people turn into this??? I know hippie college professors are preaching this shit to kids, but damn...this “free shit for everybody” mentality is going to be our country’s downfall.
well you have to agree i'm leaning towards the center, I rather have a doctor getting paid properly to save my life than an evolved socialist system I don't trust, but then again I don't have much money, it's a mixed bag.
I was a late bloomer and didn't do well in highschool and I am a bit mental but I had a hard time with technology and paranoia and wanting to be someone in this country so my mind snapped. K-12 barely did anything for me.Maybe having to pay for it and go into debt put some responsibility behind it , so you got me there.
I did say I do not support defund the police because every city and state is different. well from my point of view would you rather be a cleveland cop or a portland cop? the culture is different
being able to vote for this stuff would spark more intelligent conversations than "my side is better" bullcrap
we should all care for the environment so if I wanted to be an activist, it makes the most sense to go in that direction.
Just remember a lot of far-wrong types love to take every hated notion they can dream up, no matter how outlandish, and ball them all up and throw them at the feet of Progressives like a blanket indictment, and it's utter crap.
No real group of people want to abolish police, and the USA is SO FAR AWAY, despite being the richest country on the planet, from "giving away free shit" (so eloquently put), no one needs to worry about that. But it looks good as a ranting point, so that's what you get -- mindless ranting from god knows what demented corner of the populace. Same place Tim McVeigh sprang from, I reckon.
Just remember a lot of far-wrong types love to take every hated notion they can dream up, no matter how outlandish
Same place Tim McVeigh sprang from, I reckon.
Wrong on just about every count. Moderate people vote Dem, we just want society to move toward a compassionate - dare I say Christian? - tone, and not the overheated hate that continually emits form the alt-wrong. We aren't proud to have Proud Boys, we don't endorse kidnapping government officials (and worse, Mr Bannon).
The summer wasn't spent with any political party killing and beating and burning. That's a lie coming from isolated incidents where angry people acted poorly, not representing a political party. It's creeps that see it as an opportunity to demonize.
And I constantly see "hypocrite" used as a dodge away from addressing the real issue, it doesn't even mean anything. If one side doesn't like being called racist, the other side is sick of being accused of hypocrisy. Stick to the policies, the real policies, not the effing side show and amplifying the stupidity.
ok , how about the government puts a freeze on the rising cost of education. is that even worth talking about?
can somone with an economics degree explain to me how this might work?
Easy. Defund the University Industrial Complex.
No one needs 16+ years of classroom instruction (except those who needs continuous education, MDs, scientists, lawyers, etc.
Take that money and put it into K-11 classrooms. (And maybe 2 years Pre-K.)
We don't even need 12th grade. Look at what the Germans and the Japanese do.
I meant lower university costs
shareAbsolutely not.. they have literally killed police, attack police. try and burn down court buildings
Cannot pander to such violence and it all comes down to fatherless house holds