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Just throwing random shit at us now. Chtulhu ffs..


This show is dead to anyone aged 6 and over now.

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I'm trying to watch the first 2 eps of se 3 rn but yeah, it's not interesting anymore and i dont know why

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Shit writers. They have everything else.

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Did you watch Andor since Mando season 2? That’s what I did and it’s basically ruined everything else. This series seems like childish crap now.

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I think it's the ship.

May sound daft that it could be so simple but in season 1 we get to see this bounty hunter - not Boba Fett but very much like Boba Fett - doing his stuff.

The mysterious aspect of these guys, first shown in TESB, and how they operate within the SWU is shown to us in detail for the first time. And that expands upon the lore in a positive way which was interesting to fans and probably why the show was loved rather than hated like the DT.

But now all he can be doing with that stupid, designed for toy sales only ship, is to be flying about having random adventures with Baby Yoda - who initially was just a cute aside - sat on his lap.

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I never thought the show was AMAZING like some people seem to, but more of the first two seasons were solid than not.

I can say why I think the show has fallen off. Season 2 ended on a strong and fairly perfect note. He finally achieved his 2 season long mission, to take stupid Baby Yoda to a Jedi. Luke showed up, looked like a bad ass, even if the CGI "de-aging" looks dumb. Took the kid, badda bing, badda boom, done. We also got to see Mando grow up a bit, and stop clinging so fervently to the fanatical beliefs of the terrorist Watch cult that raised him. He took off his helmet, in front of OTHERS even, to show the kid his face, because he was saying goodbye.

Since then? As part of completely waste of time Mando episodes of the failed opportunity Boba Fett show, he goes and visits the kid because he feels lonely. Then the kid misses him to, and chooses to go back to him, even though Luke is who he belongs with. AND to top it all off, he seeks out his cult master, and is determined to get back on "The Way". So not only is it STILL the "Baby Yoda Show", making the entirety of his efforts to get the kid to a Jedi, AND the perfectly good ending of Season 2, pointless. But the character growth he showed, realizing that the Mandos who raised him maybe AREN'T the only "true way". Like dude you can take your helmet off whenever you want, like Boba Fett. It's FINE.

Now all that is also gone. And maybe they're trying to push stupid Bo Kotan back into The Watch as well? You know, the terrorist group she worked with to try and kill her sister and take over Mandalore, dragging them back to the warlike ways that literally destroyed their entire planet long before the Empire glassed it? AND we get like 80% of an overlong episode, focusing on a character I don't care about, and dragging out PRECISELY what you knew from the outset was going to happen.

So yeah. I'll keep watching, for now. But I really don't know/like what they're doing with the show at this point.

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As an additional aside, I really dislike the vague possible hints of the beginnings of what may well be the "First Order". The first two seasons (and Boba Fett) did a good job of not having pretty much ANY significant connections whatsoever to the toxic waste "Disney Trilogy" films. I can buy Imperial Remnants prowling around trying to cause some havoc. I'd even be fine with Thrawn somehow surviving and popping back up to be a nuisance.

But the SECOND they ever make any direct hint/connection to those garbage ass movies, I'm done.

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You can’t lie that Bo katan looking thicker than a snicker

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If only they had some decent angles

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Yup, her boobplate seems to expand with every season lol

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The evil hate-filled Cthulhu,
from a dimension far away.
Flying through gates of madness
and into your heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart.

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Unfortunately, they seem to have run out of material and are just sending Mando on a random quest for the season, where he will have some random adventures.

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So he turned from Mando to... Rando?

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It was never very good. Was overhyped to hell because it was the first halfway decent Star Wars that had come out in years... which isn't saying much. This franchise desperately needs to significantly improve, or die (preferably die).

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Dying is severely under-appreciated.

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That isn't necessarily true. The prequel movies, while flawed, were fine. They look like gold compared to the Disney "Sequel" crap. Both Clone Wars cartoons were good, even if the CGI one did have too many filler stories. Rebels, while not AMAZING, was a good show for the most part.

Mando was "decent Star Wars" compared to literally anything else live action that Disney has produced since owning the property. But you're right, it really was overhyped to hell. My roommate even called it "must see Star Wars besides the OG trilogy". Not even close.

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Turning minor characters into main characters is always a mistake. And people have only ever watched for Grogu anyway.

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was that the mythosaur or whatever?

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I find it really surprising that you say that. I have watched the first 3 episodes of season 3, and it is definitely Star Wars, and good Star Wars, as opposed to the sequel trilogy. Hell, everything in this show, Bobba Fett and Andor is decent Star Wars. Exciting adventures, with likable characters in a sprawling background that seems to offer infinite possibilities.

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I will agree, with the caveat that NONE of Disney's "Star Wars" movies have been any good. No, not even dull mess Rogue One. But compared to the so-called "Sequel Trilogy", which even if it weren't supposed to be Star Wars, is one of THE biggest clusterf*cks and worst written piles of garbage that has ever been made. So it isn't hard to be "decent" compared to that.

So in that light, yes, the Star Wars shows are all "good" compared to that hot garbage. I haven't watched Andor, because I have zero interest in watching a show about a completely unmemorable character from a movie stuffed with almost entirely forgettable characters. Boba Fett had its moments early on, but completely shit the bed when they decided to focus the better part of two entire episodes (at least) on Mando, NOT Boba. They used it to bring back Baby Yoda IMMEDIATELY, rending the fine ending of Season 2 utterly pointless. The show could have been strong, but instead of was mostly mediocre, because they didn't have a fully clear direction and basically used it as a Mando 2.5, which was an idiotic move.

Obi Wan wasn't terrible. But it committed some major no-nos that I think did still ruin it. It focused on a completely uncompelling villainess, when the Big Bad should have been the Grand Inquisitor, as bad ass and dangerous as he was shown to be in Rebels. And we never needed to see Obi Wan and Vader fight. It was much more compelling, IMO, to think they met for the first time in 20 years in ANH. And Mando season 3 so far, does seem aimless, and stepping backwards.

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Agreed. Andor and Mando are must watch for Star Wars fans, Book of Boba Fett had it's moments but overall could have been better.

The sequel trilogy is a mess and should be thrown on the dumpster fire.

Basically Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni and Tony Gilroy can make good Star Wars, J.J Abrams and Rian Johnson cannot.

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