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The last season 2 episode came close to jumping the shark


So far, I consider Cobra Kai and Ash vs Evil Dead the only respectful continuations of 80s properties, but that last season 2 episode was borderline too over the top and has me worried. Also the trendy lesbian makeout could be foreshadowing of future SJW crap, and the Stingray character is becoming the Jar Jar Binks of this show. Discuss.

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Lol yeah so far they have mocked SJW stuff but the lesbian make out scene is a foreshadowing of a sell out on the way.

The school fight scene was epic but over the top too. Why weren't cops called? How is it all these relative beginners are fighting so well?

I really hate the Stingray guy. Why is he even allowed in a teen karate class let alone attend their party and drink with them. He is sad and the "humour" he provides is lame.

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Hopefully the lezbo scene was just a way for the audience to laugh at Hawk and not indicative of SJWs seizing control of the show.

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I could see Demetri being revealed as gay so SJWs could rejoice and "claim another scalp."

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Well, even a brilliant TV show can't resist the 'powers that be' for two whole seasons without having to give in to the PC/SJW-pressure sometimes. Sadly.

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"I really hate the Stingray guy. Why is he even allowed in a teen karate class let alone attend their party and drink with them. He is sad and the "humour" he provides is lame. "

I agree completely. This character is:

- unnecessary
- annoying
- immersion-destroying
- unfunny
- boring
- unrealistic
- capable of bringing the episode down to a halt
- making me wish I was watching teen drama instead
- CLEARLY not a martial artist in any capacity in real life
- too fat
- disgusting in all possible levels
- unprofessional
- too powerful
- too quirky
- completely unrelatable
- the stuff nightmares are made out of

I HATE him with a passion, more than any other character in the whole show, or almost in any other show! REMOVE HIM, PLEASE!

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He's barely in the show, relax.

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The cops would have been called, but it would have taken them 15 minutes or so to get there, and the fight would have been over by then.

And the kids didn't suddenly bust out karate skills, they trained all summer.

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In this case, it should probably be called "Jumpkicking the shark"

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Ok, I shall!

The lesbian scene was out of the blue - what, why, what's the point, what the heck, etc. It is completely out-of-place. This of course happens in real-life parties, because hags want to assert their femininity-power of sexuality over men, so they can get men's attention and with maximum arousal, the hags have maximum sexual and social power, so they can better pick whatever alpha they want and so on.

Can't really blame them too much - if you had power over other people, wouldn't you flex it often, too?

But it's just odd in this kind of a movie, that's supposed to be about Cobra Kai, Karate, Johnny, Daniel-san (not 'Danielson', geez), wisdom, spirituality, history, nostalgy and the eighties - with a little bit of Mr. Miyagi thrown in.

That lesbian scene could be from anything, there's nothing 'Karate Kid'-specific about it.

I don't know which disappointed me more - that they would include this kind of scene as something 'normal', or that they would introduce a character as out-of-place, unrealistic, stupid and irritating as 'Stingray'. I hate everything about that fat blob, no offence to the actor - the beard 'sting' is incredibly disgusting to me.

What I hope for Season 3: Make all the main female 'karate masters' TAKE as many punches and kicks in the face, stomach, and crotch - preferably from male 'karate masters', as the men have taken so far.

I also hope some kind of satisfactory conclusion or resolution to the 'rivalry', as it is called. It's time for Johnny's internal torment to end, and Daniel-san to understand that he has been too aggressive and insulting in too many situations, and apologize, make a mence and stop being a douche.

I don't really care too much about what happens to any other characters - they already went through all the interesting things that CAN happen to a character, from interesting, developmental arcs to fights, to romance, to all the drama you can think of, and so on.


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The last episode of Season 2 definitely felt SO different from the carefully crafted and subtlety and great humor-filled Season 1 episodes, where things build slowly and then there are interesting eventualities.

Nothing built slowly, things just SUDDENLY erupted and exploded simultaneously into enormous, chaotic super-fights almost without warning, and everything fall apart so quickly that had been building for such a long time. Like, what? Someone wanted to write 9 different 'disturbing cliffhangers' simultaneously?

It almost felt like they decided to give the CEO's grandson a chance at writing/directing/etc. for the last episode.."Here you go, son, you can't ruin THIS show, because it's so well crafted"

Still very interesting and good, but something was very much 'off' with it, and I was shocked at almost everything that happened in that episode.

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What episode had a shark in it? Think you have the wrong series

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This show was hip deep in SJW bullshit long before the dyke scene. Males have been kowtowing to chicks from the beginning of the series, and it has also been perpetuating, from the beginning, the SWJ fantasy that chicks are on par with, or superior to, males, when it comes to fighting, which is hilarious. There's not a single actress on this show who is physically stronger than an average 12-year-old boy. For the record, punches and kicks from ~110-pound weaklings have little effect on people who are substantially heavier and stronger. Even by average post-pubescent males without any training, light weaklings are easily manhandled, and their effete "attacks" are easily brushed off. Training doesn't produce magical effects or otherwise violate physics/reality.

If you're looking for SJW-free TV shows or movies from the 21st century, I doubt you'll find many, if any.

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Okay, stand there and let Tory kick you and see how it feels.
She and Robby and Johnny look like the only advanced fighters on the show.

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A kick from a child? LOL. I'd survive.

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The lesbian kiss was cringe only because immediately afterwards the one chick had trouble saying the word "girlfriend"..."Sorry, this is all still really new to me!" Ummm, you just made out with your gf in front of a hundred people two seconds ago! Where was the apprehension then??

This show is getting a little bit ridic. I enjoyed the first season but the second started trying my nerves.

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Not really that strange. There are lots of high school to college age girls who feel socially incentivized into making out with each other for attention because its "hip" but are still weirded out by the idea of actually "dating" each other, depending on their level of conditioning.

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Okay but in this case the two girls were happy to see each other...they weren't doing it for male attention.

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Not sure exactly what bearing "happy to see each other" is supposed to have as that's a safe assumption for any acquaintances willing to make out with each other in public. Also I didn't gender specify the object of the attention seeking antics of two high school girls making out in public but since you brought it up, in this case a girl doing it literally right in the face of her recently ex boyfriend kinda seems exactly like being motivated by male attention.

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You're thinking way too deep into this whole thing. Good day!

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Nah. Just some pretty base level observations of how modern teenage to young adult women are often socialized to behave and how it related to the behavior of the female characters being discussed in this thread.

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