Dumb people
prevent Hollywood from making more movies like this.
shareHow so? By not liking it or not going to see it?
shareYes
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Care to tell us why you feel like this?
shareYou didn't like the characters or the setting?
How can you not like Cliff? I think this character was really good in this and I don't typically care for Brad Pitt that much. I mean, I like him in some movies but he usually comes off as kind of sappy. However, I've enjoyed his work in the last 3 films I've seen him in, which were, Benjamin Buttons, MoneyBall and Once Upon a Time in.... So, he's starting to get on my good side. lol...
The setting is still a pretty interesting time in Hollywood. Do I like it more than some of the other "Hollywood" films? I probably do, the last good one I saw was The Cat's Meow. It's based on a Hollywood murder that took place on William Randolph Hearst's yacht. Good movie but I do think Once Upon a Time in HW is better.
If you didn't like this movie then you probably just don't like historical films.
Read my original comment with your thinking cap turned up to 11 -- I obviously liked this movie. My comment was a lament that all the dumb people who didn't like it cause Hollywood to think they shouldn't make great movies like this anymore.
sharelol, it's not my fault you couldn't make this more clearer. Others have asked you to elaborate as well.
The truth is, not every movie is going to be good no matter who makes it or who they make the film for. Hollywood will make as many films as they can because money is no object in tinseltown. Movies are a gamble, and the big players don't care if a "bad film" is made, because the next one will be a hit which will usually be more than enough to make up for the losses.
It's not so much a question of "dumb people" preventing good movies, but more of a question of how much are we willing to risk on the next film? Risk versus reward is the name of the game now days.
Abstract thought is tough for a lot of people around here. I understand.
shareDon't be so hard on yourself, Sandy. Sure, blaming 'dumb people' is a rather simplistic way of looking at this but at least it's a start. I won't criticize you for trying.
The truth is, there are good movies out there, you just have to look around. Not every film can be The Godfather and Hollywood doesn't care either. Risk and reward...
"lol, it's not my fault you couldn't make this more clearer"
Very typical attitude these days unfortunately, get something spectacularly arsebackwards but shirk any responsibility and claim it's everyone else's fault. You were so dumb you misunderstood 10 words and STILL keep your condescending attitude? Is the 38 in your screenname related to your IQ?
Fuck off, idiot. Other people have said the same thing in here.
shareYh only other idiots like you, fucking dunce lmao
shareMiyagi, you little twerp! I have more posts than you do, by my right, I can report you for being a board menace. Don't make me get you banned. I have seniority over you and can make your stay here very uncomfortable.
Now, go find a Danielson to play with and leave the adults alone.
"I failed all of my exams, it's the exam's fault for not being clearer"
Good luck achieving the mediocrity in life you so richly deserve. Another perpetual victim.
The op can be taken both ways. It isn't exactly clear. If you take his title and the rest of his post as one sentance, it reads "dumb people prevent Hollywood from making more movies like this.", implying it's good. However, if you consider the title a separate thought, he's asking Hollywood to STOP making movies like this. "prevent Hollywood from making more movies like this."
I assume it was praise for the film, but it is ambiguous.
Now I can see why you might take it that way given the break between the title and the OP. However you could also infer, given the lack of capitalisation in the OP, that it was a direct continuation of the title. Also, how would appealing to dumb people then prevent movies being made? Unless the "dumb people" are Hollyweird execs, which tbh you won't hear me arguing against.
It's really not that ambiguous.
I understood the intent, but given the casual nature of the boards and use of grammar here, the capitalization isn't exactly a true indication of intent. As I said, I grasped the intended meaning, but the phrasing does indeed allow some ambiguity.
shareI'm fairly sure I could search the boards here and find hundreds of other threads where the OP is a direct continuation of the title, it happens so often it's a bit of a trope. Even taking it as 2 separate thoughts though, it doesn't follow logically. Why would making an appeal to dumb people stop Hollywood making a certain type of movie? Again, it's really not that ambiguous without stretching.
shareThere are significantly more post's that DON'T continue the thought from the title, if that's how you want to see it. I feel trying to suggest it isn't ambiguous is stretching, so here we are.
shareWhy would appealing to dumb people prevent Hollywood making a certain type of movie?
shareI thought I would post that as a separate question as you avoided it twice in my posts previously.
shareAll people care about are superhero movies...
shareyep . people say the golden age was the 40s,
some say the 50s
this film says the 60s
I think the golden age was "up until the superhero films arrived" , when it all went to shit
There were some superhero movies around during the time when movies were still good. The first two Superman movies with Christopher Reeve were quite good. Tim Burton's Batman movies were also good(Batman Returns is probably the best superhero movie ever). Spiderman and Hulk were also pretty entertaining, but then something happened...most of the superhero movies became similar to all the others. Same structure, tone and stories. And there were so many of them that none of them stood out any longer. Most fanboys will disagree, but I loved the earlier superhero movies I mentioned among others, but now they are all pretty boring. I also love movies, but most Hollywood fare are not interesting. It's sad that superhero movies are now so bad, but people love them. I don't get it.
shareI’m actually just hungover from superhero flicks. Endgame was the moment that I felt that I don’t really want more (for a while) - It was a satisfying ending, and I’m cool with that.
There are just too many to keep up with, and they just feel like Groundhog’s Day anymore. Same structure, same beats, no real stakes, predictable setup for another sequel…rinse, repeat.
The process has milked me far enough. I want something else.
I agree, but as long as people continue to see these movies, Hollywood will continue to make them.
shareI certainly want more good movies, and more variety at the box office, but I wouldn't single superhero movies out as the problem. Marvel, or perhaps more specifically, the films of the MCU, are about the only films coming out that I know will be interesting, unpredictable, and different from their predecessors, while maintaining a high level of quality. It's possible they'll lay an egg at some point, but thus far they've made it a point to bring together the best actors and best directors, and are producing masterpieces of cinema masquerading as superhero films. The same can't be said of the other hero movies, with a few exceptions, but the MCU specifically has given us staggeringly great films.
I wish that along with the MCU movies, we were given a larger and more diverse selection of films, as it seems we once were, but lately, other than the occasional Tarantino or Wes Anderson, there's precious little of note in the cinema. That's what needs to change, but lambasting the one source of high quality entertainment that we do have isn't the way to go, in my opinion.
I just don't think that most superhero movies are that good. They just don't do it for me. There have been some good ones, but most have me looking at my phone to see when it's going to be over. The characters, the stories and the villains just don't do it for me anymore. They really need to stop being so similar and take some risks or else these movies are going to burn themselves out. It won't happen for awhile, but it's going to happen.
shareIt's hard for me to watch Thor: Ragnarok, Eternals, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man:Homecoming, and Captain America: The Winter Solider, just to grab a handful off the top of my head, and consider them even remotely similar, or lacking in risk-taking. Those are five excellent films that happen to be about superheroes, that otherwise have absolutely nothing in common with one another.
shareOK, I did find the movies you mentioned very enjoyable, but many of the others don't do it for me. If the Spiderman series would have stayed the same as Homecoming, then I would have enjoyed the other Spiderman movies, but they became watered down and poorly written.
shareI can only wonder if you have actually seen the superhero movies you are denigrating. I'm writing specifically about the films of the MCU, though some other superhero films are just as good, but to say the MCU films employ the "same structure, tone and stories" tells me you either haven't watched the films, or are not capable of understanding what you see on screen.
shareI've watched more movies that you probably ever will of all different kinds and the MCU specifically just are the same old thing. Whe DC hits, they do it right, but the MCU just don't attempt to give us something different. I did like the first Spiderman movie, but the next two were just boring. MCU just never have that sense of urgency, while a "good" DC movie does. Even a DC failure is respectable, because they tried something different. I think that the characterizations of the superheros are weak and they just don't seem relatable at all. Not a fan obviously.
shareAh yes, the classic "I've watched more than you" response. When followed by the statement that the DC films are better than the Marvel films, it's clear that no amount of film-watching is going to help you understand what good film is. :)
shareThat's your opinion. DC doesn't always deliver, but I respect the fact that they attempt to inject the human element into their superhero stories. Yes, I have seen more movies than most, whether that be classic or not, I definitely know movies.
i liked this film
shareJust realized what op was saying. So I deleted my comment. I thought op thought the movie was about dumb people not that people who didn’t like movie were dumb. I can’t believe I am even on this.
shareI honestly don't get it. There have been some very good films that have come out over the last 10 years that are not superhero movies.
Are you people just not paying attention or what? Saying that good movies are in short supply is just not true. Plus, there's a massive list of TV shows that are good that you can watch every week if you just want some solid entertainment.
Like I said previously, not everything can be The Godfather but we've seen some movies that have been released over the last 5-10 years that have been right up there with GF.
But of course, it's subjective. One man's trash film is another man's classic. Believe it or not, some people think OUATIH was not a good film and I would strongly disagree with those people...