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The “girl power”

posted 5 years ago by BrunoAntony (1198)
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The amount of “girl power” moments ... like Pepper Potts in an Iron Man suit, the female characters teaming up for a moment in the final battle, Scarlet Witch single-handedly overpowering Thanos (who only survived by calling a missile strike), Captain Marvel (once again, dominating Thanos until he used an Infinity Stone), Valkyrie becoming king of Asgard... were eye-rollingly forced and unsubtle.

I would have traded all of them for some actual character development and action scenes for Black Widow, who basically committed suicide because Hawkeye had a family and she didn’t/couldn’t.

[–] Hans-Wilhelm (1320) 5 years ago

I will have to look for this the next time I see it, I didn't even notice there was an all girl scene.

[–] sut6432 (2836) 5 years ago

It was a pretty big annoying "look at us" moment. Surprised you missed it.

But at the same time, it unfortunately was really a cringe worthy moment, so be glad you didn't notice it.

Love the media, of course, saying this scene was so great...which, of course, in the media's case was politically motivated more than anything. The logic of the scene alone makes no sense other than making the obligatory "girl power" statement.

In the chaos of the war, did the ladies all get together while everyone else was fighting and talk about all gathering around at the same place at the same time? At that point did everyone else just decide to hang back and let the women provide the backup to Captain Marvel? It was the one moment I was really taken out of the movie, which sucks, because I was pretty enthralled otherwise.

Thankfully, after I said "wow, that was dumb", a few seconds later I was able to get back into the film.

I wish filmmakers would choose their political statements a little more wisely, and put them in the film if they so choose at a point where it makes more sense.

[–] Rorikon (16442) 5 years ago

Pepper Potts in an Iron Man suit = Nothing wrong with that. She was in a suit before when Stark saved her in Iron Man 3.

The female characters teaming up for a moment in the final battle = That was a cringey moment when the battle was going on and they just posed for the camera shot. It wasn't even a team up, it was more a we'll kill a few enemies and you just blast through the whole bunch with your firey glow.

Scarlet Witch single-handedly overpowering Thanos (who only survived by calling a missile strike) = Absolutely fine. Guess you never looked into her bio and the fact that she's powered like Vision with the Mind stone and Cap'n Marvel with the Space stone. Her power was shown when Quicksilver died and when she had the destroy the Mind stone on Vision's head by holding back Thanos. She's literally a Omega level mutant in the comics.

Captain Marvel (once again, dominating Thanos until he used an Infinity Stone) = Err that was the point and the movie Cap'n Marvel? They literally portrayed her as the most powerful Avenger.

Valkyrie becoming king of Asgard = Nothing wrong with becoming King/Queen just because she was a woman. It was what she said after Thor that was the eye rolling moment. She said she'd make some 'change' and we know that's queue for some feminist role action.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 5 years ago

Bruno knows nothing about movies, or much about anything in general

He only spams threads, regardless of how ignorant they are, because he craves attention

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

You’re following me from thread to thread now, cyberbob?

LOOOOOL!

Bro, it might be time for you to take a break from the internet before your creepiness levels escalate...

[–] cyberbob (3488) 5 years ago

I'm not following you lol. Literally every user is on the Endgame board right now, it's the biggest movie to come around in a while

You just happen to spam so many shitty posts that it's hard to avoid you

You're just butt hurt because everyone thinks you're a dumbass and shits all over your threads

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

You just happen to spam so many shitty posts that it's hard to avoid you

... and somebody forces you to click on my thread, read all the posts on it and write your own comment?

LOL

Take that internet break. You sound like you’re losing it.

[–] maul (1533) 5 years ago

Pot, meet kettle.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 5 years ago

This guy is totally delusional and in denial. 864 posts and he's telling me to take a break. LOL

And every thread he makes people just roast him, but he keeps on going. It's like he'd rather have negative attention than no attention at all

[–] maul (1533) 5 years ago

Indeed, he's definitely one of the worst this site has to offer.

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[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

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[–] maul (1533) 5 years ago

Poor guy must have reported my post.

Sad! "LOL!"

What's even more sad is that the unironic posts calling people incels and such aren't deleted. (gg double standards, mods)

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

Dude, nobody has any idea what you’re talking about...

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[–] Mcboogerballs (118) 5 years ago

Didnt mind any of those scenes.

The teaming up of all female characters was a bit much because it was impossible for them all to be there in the same shot, but that was for what ? 5 seconds max? And it was still a pretty badass moment and a nice tip of the hat to the super powered ladies.

At the end of the day, this is a comic book movie. The paying audience breathes for such moments - the money shots.

Almost all of the above scenes got massive cheers from the audience in my theater

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

It wasn’t really a nice tip of the hat ... aside from “Captain Marvel”, all of those female superheroes in the team-up scene were 2nd-string characters who would never headline there own film. There was also no real connection between, say, Valkyrie and Pepper Potts.

It was basically Marvel trying to create an illusion that it’s more diverse than it actually is.

[–] Mcboogerballs (118) 5 years ago

Couldnt care less about what "GRADE" of characters they were in the comic books. Havent read one

The connection was simple. They were all super powered and badass women. I dont see what is the big deal about this that people would throw hissy fits. Especially given the duration of that shot was less than 5 secs

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

Who mentioned a “GRADE” or comic books?

Even the writers of “Endgame” know that the scene was just pandering:

https://vult.re/2GOkLKj

[–] sut6432 (2836) 5 years ago

There was a collective eyeroll at my theater.

It wasn't badass. It was a stupid "look at us, we don't get the attention we deserve" extremely forced cringe worthy moment in an otherwise excellent battle scene.

Took me right out of it. Politics will do that when it's forced, as that scene clearly was. Wonder why there wasn't a scene with all the African American characters randomly gathering to fight together for a moment?

I don't care what the media or feminists say, it was a moronic forced scene that made no sense and hurt the movie. Thankfully nothing was completely ruined by stupid shit like that.

[–] MuffCabbage (401) 5 years ago

So true, I didn't realize I would be watching Womengers: Endgame

[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Turns out it's not new in Avengers...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/df/02/30df0205fbe346bb96a97a4aefa69829.jpg

[–] QBall (23) 5 years ago

Potts in a suit (which I think is called Rescue) is canon and nice to see (we saw it in Iron Man III).
On the third act epic battle scene Scarlet Witch IS the most powerful person on the battlefield, it's just the writers keep nerfing her for some reason. So seeing her almost defeating Thanos single handedly is completely believable.
Valkyrie leading Asgard? Sure, why not. Frees up Thor to do cool stuff (no movie for you Valkyrie).
Captain Marvel was used as a Deus Ex Machina the entire movie, so it was nice to see Thanos punch her into next week (using the power stone was a brilliant move on his part).
The part I couldn't handle was the "Girl Power Assemble!" scene when Captain Marvel was given the gauntlet. Were all of the other women who showed up just standing around waiting for their cue? Horrible writing!
When used organically female heroes work fine. When forced they do not. I wish Disney would learn this before they destroy the MCU like they are doing with Star Wars (#prayforIX).