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Why was Michael so weak?


At the end of the last movie he survived bullets, beatings and stabbings and went to work killing a mob of people. So in this movie why is he shambling around like a weakling? He lost a wrestling match to the dork, and in the final scene couldn't even overpower Laurie.

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Because he has degenerative discs in his back… loomis brought it up in the beginning of 2018

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He is like a completely different character in this movie. The Michael I know would've killed Corey in 2 seconds flat for even thinking about beating him up and stealing his mask. Yet in this movie he just takes it. It is really, really weird.

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All three movies play by their own set of rules, which I really don't understand.

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That's a huge issue with this 'trilogy'. It was a planned trilogy so why the fuck is it so tonally retarded and all over the place?

The planning seems to have been "lets make a trilogy of Halloween films"...and then they just made it up as they went. Abysmal.

They made Michael an absolutely unstoppable killing machine in Kills only to make him a little bitch in this film. Unbelivable.

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Yep. Plus, if he is a weak bitch when he's not killing, wouldn't he have been just a withering bag of bones in wheelchair when the journalists come to see him in H 2018? He hadn't killed anyone in 40 years at that time. Idiotic...

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Very good point.

I've seen some people reference the quote in Halloween Kills that mentions he gets stronger with each kill. So we're assuming he hasn't killed for 4 years and that's why he is weak. Taking this as the canonical explanation makes the 2018 film a plothole as he was brutal and strongly physical from the beginning after 40 years in a padded cell.

When I watched Ends last night I thought he was weak because he was badly injured during Kills. Then I remember the final scene in that had him up and about killing people (Lauries daughter). I think I'm remembering that right...so the question remains. Why the fuck is he in a sewer like some sort of hobo cripple ?

What was supposed to have happened to him? Why hasn't he been killing? What's stopping him?

Now that I'm typing this I remember that homeless guy attacking Corey asking why Michael let him live because he kills everyone else who goes into the sewer????? So he has been killing people in the mean time?

It's just such a colossal clusterfuck of poor writing.

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They had no idea what they were doing. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they had turned in a script that doesn't have Michael in it at all. Then Blumhouse came back to them and made them shoehorn him in. So, they pouted and decided to ruin him.

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That sounds plausible. Something strange had to have gone on during the creative process of this film.

Glad to see someone else suspect that they purposely made a bad film. I've stated in on here a few times already. It seems like they possibly shit the bed under the weight of expectations, had no idea what to do and said fuck it and purposely made a weird and bad film, metaphorically; jumping into the fire instead of getting pushed.

'Subverting expectations' comes to mind. A bait-and-switch. Trolling the fandom.

It's one of the biggest disasters I've seen. Mindblowingly bad.

Halloween (2018) works better as a final showdown/send off than this film. Such a backwards 'trilogy'.

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For sure. This movie gave me major "The Last Jedi" vibes. It's a huge insult to all the Halloween fans that have supported both this trilogy and the franchise.

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I wondered the same thing.

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He got old

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4 years went by, not 20. in the lore, Laurie and Myers are around the same age...Laurie looked strong, quick and nimble.

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He took a lot of damage through 2018 and Kills. I always forget they both took place over one night. Perhaps once the adrenaline wore off from that night, he was more damaged than anyone knew. It seems he wasn't a supernatural killing machine in this timeline but was human after all.

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I don't think adrenaline keeps a person from dying.

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Myers was living in a sewer while Laurie was staying in great shape preparing for a showdown with him. I love to see female empowerment in todays movies

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I looked at it as a bit of the shape went into that kid when he let him go, weakening Michael and allowing more of his age to play a factor.

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He's a straight white male, which is evil enough on its own without the whole being a murderous masked killer thing. Serious answer; there's no answer to this question because the writers play fast and loose with the logic in these movies.

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Even his mask is white! Whites are evil.

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The mask is William Shatner, so it makes sense it's white.

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Uh-oh, we got another person injecting race into the conversation Boo-hoo.

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Relax, you took this a tad too seriously.

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Alright then

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because, much like Pennywise, living in a sewer makes you fragile

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