And begs the question, how bad must Batgirl have been if *this* is considered worthy of release.
It better not dump on the Keaton/Burton legacy. I can't believe Keaton snubber Joel Schumacher, but decided to make this with serial abuser/offender Ezra Miller. Speaking of whom, he really is utterly charmless and unlikeable here. Why is WB/DC still sticking with this pest? Did one of their execs abuse Ezra and now they're doing everything to accommodate them?
Looks awesome, sorry
shareAgreed that this looks terrible. A big budget ‘hit the reset button on this dumpster fire of a cinematic universe’ film.
Throw in Member berries as well. Member Michael Keaton as Batman? Member General Zod? Ooh, I member!
Plus Miller has always been awful as Barry Allen. The CW Flash show may be cheesy but Grant Gustin is fantastic as Barry whereas Miller is annoying and unlikeable in the role.
They’re selling the film purely on the nostalgia of Keaton’s Batman just like last year’s Jurassic World Dominion did with the original cast returning. Ezra Miller kills any hype I have for Keaton’s return though, shame on Warner Bros for not scrapping this film and taking the loss. I’m just hoping Bale’s Batman doesn’t make an appearance, don’t ruin that iteration of the character as well.
Pretty much my thoughts precisely.
I just hope that it doesn't permanently tarnish the Burton/Keaton Batman brand.
And whilst I appreciate that Bale is staying well clear of this*, it also annoys me, as a particular fan of the 1989 and 1992 films, that TDK has always been treated with a respect that's never been afforded to the Burton/Keaton movies. That's not a dig at TDK trilogy, but simply to ask why Burton/Keaton fans can't be given the same consideration as Bale/Nolan fans.
* Apart from anything, I love the way TDK trilogy tied-up at the end. We can all debate whether Batman should or shouldn't retire, but as the ending to a movie trilogy, seeing Bale's Bruce Wayne finally have a decent, normal, grief-free life away from Gotham/Batman's legacy, was extremely poignant, especially as we witness it through the eyes of Alfred (assuming it wasn't a dream, which would also be a powerful and touching final note).
There is a 6 issue comic book series called Batman '89 that is a continuation of the Burton/Keaton era that's written by Sam Hamm and it's supposedly quite good and a solid conclusion to what could have been Burton's third film in a trilogy.
shareNot gonna speak to ANY of your stated points. . .just here to let you know I'm stealing "Member Berries." Mine now. Mine mine Mine. Consult w/me if anyone wants to use it from now on. . .
shareIt looked weird to see Michael Keaton's Batman as CGI.
shareLooks brilliant better than the guff that came before
shareEzra part of the lgbtq community. They’ll not just gonna fire someone from that community or the alphabet mafia would have their ass.
shareIf you assault multiple women/engage in a child's kidnap, your LGBTQ+ status should mean sh*t, and I say that as a staunch supporter of LGBTQ+ rights and dignity.
shareThen Ezra must have something on one of the WB/DC executives. To go and do all this multiple times and still get off Scott free
shareThat's what I've been saying.
I wonder if one of them abused Ezra, and they're fobbing Ezra off in order to keep them quiet.
I'm not generally a fan of conspiracy theories, and this is probably a little far-fetched, but the way WB is simping for Ezra one can't help but ask these questions.
Maybe he has pornographic material of an executive that he could use for blackmail.
shareI don't think it will diminish the Keaton/Burton Legacy, judging by the reactions to the trailor, and the chills it gave me, a hardcore anti Marvel/DC film watcher seeing the OG back in the suit. I think it will actually enhance the perception of Keaton's Batman.
I am like you i grew up with Batman 89 and as much as i liked the Nolan series, i never loved them i always thought the dialog was a bit lame, and i couldn't take to Bale, the voice, the suit, the car. But i understand that generations change and this was a film for a new generation. But the cocksucking those films got as if they were masterpieces and getting top 10 IMDB status did bother me, but what pushed it over the line was the fans of the new one pissing on the old ones.
Much like 89, the Nolans were films of their time and the DKT were all part of the now tired trend of everything having to be super serious and played straight. I think people are now getting bored of all that hence why Top Gun 2 was so well received, also just because a film takes it's self seriously doesn't mean they have the quality of writing to match it. I think deep down everyone always loved 89 but the Nolan series had people thinking they weren't watching a movie they were watching a 'Film' so they thought 89 was beneath them. Now the dust has settled people are crying out for 89
And hearing that Danny Elfman score strike up and hearing Keaton drop the line was like Stone Cold Steve Austin coming back today and having the final line, i think it's great that Keaton get's the last word.
I agree the Film will probably be a huge pile of gash though and for 3 minutes worth of Keaton we will have to suffer 2 hours of that other prick
I don't know. Saw the trailer and the guy hosting it is into it. It looks typical to me. If I wanted to see a Keaton batman, I'd watch the 89 batman.
shareTo “beg the question” means “to avoid the question,” not to invite the question. This is a mistake commonly made by newscasters who are trying to appear to be intelligent, but who are anything but.
sharePerhaps that was the original intention, but this is the present dictionary definition given for the phrase:
'1.
(of a fact or action) raise a point that has not been dealt with; invite an obvious question.
"some definitions of mental illness beg the question of what constitutes normal behaviour"
2.
assume the truth of an argument or proposition to be proved, without arguing it.'