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Sorry way to end a career...


Kubrick should have called it a day after Full Metal Jacket. Eyes Wide Shut was an embarrassment after so many true classics.

Incomprehensible, pretentious self-indulgent baloney.

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Incomprehensible??? It's a pretty straightforward narrative and story.

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What I found most incomprehensible was the reason for making this movie. All through it I kept wondering "what's the point?"

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It was based on a book that Kubrick liked.

Based on Arthur Schnitzler's 1926 novella Traumnovelle (Dream Story), the story is transferred from early 20th century Vienna to 1990s New York City.

Kubrick obtained the filming rights for Dream Story in the 1960s, considering it a perfect text for a film adaptation about sexual relations.


It's right up Kubrick's alley considering he did the same thing with adapting Lolita. This was probably originally meant to be a follow-up to that movie.

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Maybe he did it for the thrill of being able to direct such a grand ballroom orgy scene. :D

I can see why some would consider it pretentious but I didn't hate it because I think I enjoyed that scene too much.

Plus I thought it was interesting watching Kidman and Cruise try to act like they had a marriage that was anything more than a business decision.

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"All through it I kept wondering "what's the point?" "


Boobs

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The film is also a very suspenseful thriller,too...especially the use of a nighttime setting and sinster mansion where something sexy goes on, and the piano music (Gyorty Legiti, "Musica Ricerata") works..it's pretty scary in the second half, like when T.C.is at the the mansion gate and a limo or hearse pulls out with a creepy man with a simple, written threat..that piano music made it a real chiller..btw the happy orchestral musical, "Jazz Suite"(making it sound like something Gershwin would have written for Paul Whiteman-think "Rhapsody in Blue") at beginning and end---made its way four and a half years later into the Billy Bob Thornton film "Bad Santa" (with Lauren Tom driving a truck)..with Lauren Graham, Tony Cox, and the late stars Bernie Mac and John Ritter..

Oh, and one other thing.


Fidelio.

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Totally agreed on the suspense, Eyes Wide Shut and No Country For Old Men are the two thrillers that affected me the most when I saw them. I was on the edge of my seat for both.

Oh, and one other thing.
Fidelio.

"That's correct, sir! That is the password... for admittance. But may I ask, what is the password for the house?"

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Not "sorry". It's actually a pretty good film, just not a great one by any means. It's creepy and atmospheric and unique, a nightmare journey through high-end urban life. So it's good, but not good enough to stand comparison to the truly great film Kubrick made, or to withstand the kind of scrutiny his films always receive.

And it'd have a much better reputation if Tom Cruise wasn't in almost every frame! His chilly presence sinks the film, imagine if, say, Jeff Bridges had played the leading role, and Tom Cruise had played the creep who was connected to the cult.

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keep in my that kubrick did not finish this movie

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I think you're thinking of "A.I." i have never heard anything about Spielberg "completing" EWS for him after he died, though some have speculated if Kubrick had lived to see its release, he would have probably tightened up the editing as he did with the European cut of The Shining which was a half-hour shorter than the American version and the cut Kubrick supposedly preferred.

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I heard Tom Cruise say that Kubrick was still making changes up until his death. Not sure if it was Spielberg, but someone had to finish it off.

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I liked this better than whatever Napoleon mumbo-jumbo he was thinking of producing..

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The Napoleon film would have been magnificent. Kubrick showed what he could do with battles of that era in Barry Lyndon. It would have been a classic epic. Not mumbo-jumbo at all.

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Meh.. Kubrick himself knew he could do awesome war/era flicks i.e. Lyndon, Spartacus, Paths of Glory. Perhaps even he himself was curious to see how Eyes Wide Shut will turn out. It's still one of the most unique films out there.

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Movie felt like a personal vendetta. I know this world exists. We have an army of youtube heroes touting it. I think he was out of touch in that respect. Wish he had made AI instead of Spielberg. But who gives a shit. Crazy old legendary filmmaker can do whatever the fuck he wants.

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It's incomprehensible because it's an incomplete film. There's obviously pieces missing that were probably removed after he died and couldn't do anything about it.

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Full MEtal Jacket was good.. but i tend to not watch it often. if at all anymore.

Eyes Wide Shut was a great way to end a career.
i.e. The last word in a kubrick film is "Fuck"


if that's not epic... don't know what is

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