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I've tried to like Alien, but just can't get into it.


I feel like I'm the only person in the world who doesn't like this movie. I'll give credit where credit is due because it's shot very well and the production design is excellent, but on the whole I've always been disappointed with it.

I'll probably get flak for this but the biggest problem I have with the movie is the inconsistent special effects. The famous chest bursting scene is set up very well and John Hurt sells it perfectly but when it eventually comes out I couldn't help but chuckle a little bit because it looks like what it is, a plastic puppet that is being twisted on a stick by a stage hand. Then when it scurries off, it also looks like what it is, a plastic puppet being pulled along on a track that is hidden in the table. I think the same thing about E.T when he is trying to get to the ship before it takes off, it's pretty poorly done in an otherwise decent movie.

I might be coming down a little hard on the movie because I'm well aware that Scott was being rushed for time and resources when shooting a lot of these effects sequences, but essentially it's an A movie that settled for second. The scene where Ash has his head knocked off and his wooden arms are flailing around everywhere is pretty laughable and the god awful jump cut scene following it is basically unforgivable, there was another way to shoot that scene without resorting to an obvious jump cut.

Which brings be to my next point about the Alien, which for the most part is shot well, keeping it in the shadows and showing only certain sections of its figure was a good move on Scott's behalf. However there are shots that really show that it's just a man in a suit and when it gets blasted out of the air lock it gave it away. All of these things broke my sense of danger and suspense when watching it and I've had conversations with people online who chastise me for judging a movie on its special effects, but I think its warranted. The Alien is the draw card of the film and if you can't sell it with the special effects then there's a problem.

Obviously I'm in the minority here as people have loved this movie for nearly 40 years but I've re-watched this film several times since I first saw it in 1998 and still feel the same way. As they say, first impressions last and those dodgy special effects really stick out like a sore thumb to me and prevent me from feeling the same suspense and terror that the characters are.

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Most of the effects hold up pretty well, IMO.

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You make some good points......for a person used to modern special effects, cgi etc.... ET is the same in that respect. Also, you could argue that movies of the time such as Superman, the effects in each sequel got progressively worse. As did the original Star Wars trilogy. Jaws, what more can I say.
If the effects drag away from the story too much for you then you are probably never going to enjoy it. Personally speaking I love the movie despite its' effects not looking so special these days. Much the same as I love Jaws.

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I loved the movie primarily because of the feeling of it. The atmosphere was incredible, from the moments the ship wakes up to the landing on the planet. I loved the all the lights go on underneath the landing ship, and the elevator down to the ground, and then trudging through the alien landscape.

The monster, as a monster, and was certainly scary as hell, but I agree with you about the chest-burster scene. BUT, for me, I saw the lack of the special effects the way someone who was actually there would have seen it, and it seemed real to me. For example, when something so unexpected and disorienting occurs our brains are kind of freaked out and we are not thinking of perceiving right ... mind-blind was how Malcolm Gladwell described it. So that a tiny little rubber monster could be how that thing would be perceived, or any abonormalities in how it moved would just look like a track. Anyway, the point for me is that the atmosphere was enough to suspend my disbelief.

I did not like the acid-blood idea, I thought it was stupid. I did not like the fact that this thing grew so fast with nothing to eat, or that it was obviously much more ungainly than a human being and yet it was moving around in the air ducts. Also, the teeth were ridiculous ... but you just have to go with the story.

Oh, and I thought the idea of calling the ship's computer mother, and that stupid room with all the lights in it was ridiculous. But it was fun to see when it came out.

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I felt the same way about the chest-buster scene as the OP. To me it wasn't scary at all -- a cross between a laugh and an eye-roll. However, while I saw it back when, someone had told me about that scene, so I was expecting it, as well as expecting a lot more from it.

It's entirely possible if I hadn't known, it would have been far more effective because I'd have been startled and not focussing on the puppet aspect at all.

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Can't make every one happy. Make the alien more realistic and people will complain about it being CGI and not practicle enough. I would have thought the pacing of the film is what turns people off the most about it.

The only effect I thought was lame was when the Alien was waiting for Dallas where the actor in the suit is clearly waiting for the dallas to show up. They are trying to make it seem like the creature was rushing towards dallas where it pops up and grabs him but its clearly a trick where the creature is there the whole time and springs up when the light is turned on like a spring loaded cat scare.

The scene where the alien decends like a spider from the landing gear is what sold me on the idea that the creature is stalking the crew and toying with them rather then out right outrunning them as it knows its clearly stronger and faster then them and will get them when its done toying with them.

When it first popped out of Kane I always assumed it was just first learning to use its muscle and vision as it peered around looking at the crew which is why its movments looked so contrived. I get what your saying it does look a little wobbly as it jets down a predefined track off the table as if it is going to fall overy sideways as its ripped down the track. I suspect they probably did do several takes as the creature may well have toppled over a few times.

Alien was a totally new kind of movie of the time. Most Aliens were portrayed as intelligent invaders prior to alien and gigers level of detail of another other worldly animal as well as the strange biomechanoid derelict and its unexplained pilot(prometheus didn't do the space jokey any justice regrettably). While a lot of aspects about Alien seem dated by today's standards thats merely cause Alien invented alot of the genre we're used to seeing today. I'm still waiting for another movie to give us a totally new experience the way Alien did in 1979.

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I agree about the scene where it descends like a spider on Brett. That's perhaps my favorite image/sequence in the movie, it's so well done and is very creepy.

"And what about the sh*t weasels, the ones that blast out the basement door" - Col. Curtis

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I'm still trying to figure out how its implied the alien came down. From my perspective and this being the first time I saw an adult alien in the film I always thought it spun a web and came down but then never saw it spin anything like webs in any other movies. And I don't think it came down a chain as it didn't seem like it was using its arms or legs. I know the answer is it came down a crane that was holding it up for the effecvts shot but in the movie how were we supposed to assume it did when it came down? In one shot you see the chain dangling then a cut of the cat then you see the tail come down as if to test if the audience can tell the difference between the tail and the chain and the music tenses up to let you know its not the chain. Then the alien just kind of decends with out moving its appendages.

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Tail

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I never liked Alien either. Aliens is way better. But that's maybe because I don't like horror movies in general. I find horrors silly and not scary, thus not interesting.

Do you like horror movies?

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I love horror movies.

"And what about the sh*t weasels, the ones that blast out the basement door" - Col. Curtis

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You know, I'd thought for years that I didn't care for it, and I gather I must not have when I was younger. I tried it again recently and thought it was better than I'd given it credit for. Still can't say I loved it, but it was entertaining.

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The universe ... you are the only person in the universe that does not like this movie!

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I agree that watching some films 20 years after their original release is not going to have the same(or even remotely similar) impact as when it first came out. Heck, I remember being very stressed out watching The Shining for the first time in 1980 but when I saw it the next summer in 1981 it already looked dated and almost unwatchable.
In short, some movies last the test of time, some don't.
Now, all this being said is Alien the best sci-fi movie of it's era?
Yeah.

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Alien is not science fiction. It’s a monster movie disguised as being science fiction. It’s actually a very trite narrative: people are trapped in an enclosed space with a monster. Aliens, on the other hand, is an unapologetic action movie that is presented as being an action movie. I love Aliens. I sneer at Alien.

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Alien crosses genre's. Action movie? Yes. Horror movie? Yes. Sci-Fi movie? Yes.
Alien had spaceships, androids, futuristic weapons, other worlds, advanced technology, computers that interfaced with humans, hypersleep chambers, derelict alien starships, spacesuits.
Alien is a Sci-Fi Horror movie with heart stopping action.

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Sneer. What you actually sit there and sneer? I mean, there's not liking a movie, but that seems a little overboard, sitting and sneering at a movie.
I probably just wouldn't watch it if I didn't like it.

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