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If it werent for his Grandpa and Daddy....


.....he would be a fucking nobody. He is a product of nepotism. Plain and simple. John and Tom Whedon were both screenwriters of a lot of classic tv. Joss undoubtedly would not have gotten anywhere without their help and name. Yup. Too bad he screwed it all up by being a doucbebag...😂😂....guess that is what happens when you are raised with a silver spoon in your mouth.

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So whats your point.Hollywood is full of people who had opportunities handed to them through nepotism.You think Will Smith's kids are getting jobs because their talented.Or that any one would know who John David Washington was if it wasn't for his dad Denzel.At least Whedon made a name for himself on his own.

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Amen, it is harder to find someone that truly made it on their own than to find someone that made it from nepotism.

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He didn't do it in his own anymore than Smith's kids........you dont think his grandpappy and daddy gave him all the connections he needed plus his name....what are smoking????

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His connections didn't write and create Buffy, Angel or Firefly for him.He did that himself.Nepotism only opens the door.Talent keeps you inside.

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And being a hypocritical leftie ends it all.

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Don't know his personal political views and don't care.That's his business.So long as he doesn't try to preach them to me through his writing like so many woke writers feel the need to now a days.

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Really? i like Buffy but the show for moments is almost a feminist manifest, he open the door for writers who push their feminist agenda trough their writing because he was if not the first at least the most successful to do so

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If so it never came across for me on screen.Nothing about it ever felt heavy handed or preachy unlike so many shows today.

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Really? i like Buffy but the show for moments is almost a feminist manifest

When?

And I mean during the first 5 seasons. Seasons 6 and 7 had quite a few cringey feminist moments, but Whedon wasn't the showrunner.

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Are there any strong female characters that don't come off that way to you? Or do you just not like strong female characters?

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Give me a good story and a charismatich protagonist and i enjoy i dont give a F** if is black, chinesse, female or whatever i like Aliens, the fifth element, The villaneisse, Underworld, and many other movies and tv show with female lead but a problem with buffy is the way present men and women even the male hero of that show are asshole in some point or other and the women are perfect is just moronic

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Not really? One of the main female characters from what I watched so far is pretty much constantly a bitch. From what I've seen it presents men and women very equally. Even Buffy herself isn't the best at times. I'm not so sure we've watched the same show.

I guess if you don't like it, don't watch it. You're wrong though.

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While those shows are good it's well known that he is not the one that made them as great as they turned out to be. Firefly was mediocre and best by the way. He came up with one fucking good concept...a vampire Slayer. Big deal. It would have gotten a pass if not for his name Im Sure...

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"While those shows are good it's well known that he is not the one that made them as great as they turned out to be."

Well since he wrote them and created the characters i would disagree.And Firefly was a great show but your entitled to your opinion.

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He didnt write it all.

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Firefly was basically a star wars rip off TV show with Han Solo as the lead character. Buffy he took vampires and rejigged it into a school setting (bit like JK Rowling did with magic/wizards etc)

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Yup. Other writers made it shine. Hes nothing more than an entitled prick. If he was so great why is the whole damn family in movie production??? It's because of their connections...simple. If we came up with that concept it would have been rejected or caught up in red tape...

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You have a sad life.

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Only telling the truth. Joss has ways been a flipping prick. It was evident by many comments back during Buffy. As much as I like thise shows I wont miss any of Whedons other mediocre crap. Besides the greatness of Buffy and Angel was mostly from other writers and producers.
Hes done. Now to get other hacks like Kurtzman and Abrahms out. All these guys have left a lot of ruin in their wakes....😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Lmao. The best parts of Buffy and Angel has almost ZERO to do with Whedon. Try again. Hes finished..
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The best parts of Buffy and Angel has almost ZERO to do with Whedon

Whedon was a showrunner for 5 seasons. Here you have a rank of the best seasons in Buffy. Guess which are considered the two worst seasons? Bingo, the two ones where Whedon wasn't the showrunner.
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a863611/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-seasons-ranked/

Perhaps you were talking about Whedon as a writer. Well, here you have a rank of top 10 episodes in Buffy. Guess what? #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9 were written by him. Not bad, huh?
https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2547338/the-best-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-episodes-ranked

The problem with wokes is that you don't care about merit. You only care whether somebody belongs to your tribe. When Whedon used to be considered a feminist rolemodel, he was a great writer. Now he felt from grace, he's an awful one.

Truth is that when it comes to merit, he's one of the most skilled showrunners and writers right now. Period.

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He came back for Angel's last season and guess what????? IT STUNK....
I Never believed the feminist bullshit. Again he made several comments back than about relationships that should have been red flags. I knew than that he was a prick. Of course it turned out totally true...😂😂

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bullshit

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Haha...its not. The info is readily available...😂😂😂

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Not questioning his family,but the fact that you say that he obtained big success like Buffy,The Avengers,etc. only because his dad wrote in a tv show decades ago! Haha what a bullshit! His dad at max provided him his first job on Roseanne. But all the rest,all the big shows he created,all the big movies he wrote and directed,its only thanks to his big talent!

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Hes a hack. The majority of his work is mediocre at best. His ideas never would have seen the light of day if it werent for his family. Everyone in his family just happens to have this great "talent" BULLSHIT....

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A lot of Whedon fans in all the world disagree with you

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Hes washed up...sorry...

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Who the F are Tom and John Wheedon?

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They worked in tv. The whole damn family works in tv and film. Go f'ing look it up on wikipedia....joss is not some "discovery" he got a lot of doors opened for him and a lot of chances people with more talent never get.

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I did. Still don't know who they are. Doesn't look like anything they did really compares to the success Joss reached.

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Doesnt matter. They are all in the business. It's not some coincidence. NEPOTISM. Joss was a self admitted asshole...and continued to be even after he admitted it. He even admitted to his wife he abused his power back when they were divorced and he still continued....😂😂😂

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