i am shocked that it is the cbc that is outing her.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/i-am-proud-of-my-indigenous-american-identity-buffy-sainte-marie-responds-to-allegations-about-ancestry-1.6618580
I know I can't be the only person that's totally sick and tired of this race and ethnic stuff all the time.
It's really disgusting and many thousands are dead.
Jews and Palestinians are killing each other.
Russians and Ukrainians are killing each other.
If New York declares war on Canada for ownership of Niagara Falls I may move to Canada to avoid the draft, but then Canada would draft me and I'd have to practice missing shots at my cousins from New York.
We need to calm down and drop this ancient stuff, it's all pretty shameful and stupid.
i'm a viking
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shareFor some reason everything is identity now and it's getting absurd. That singer, Adele, she thought she would be healthy and tried losing weight. People told her she wasn't being authentic to her real identity as a fat woman. It's crazy.
shareIf New York declares war on Canada for ownership of Niagara Falls I may move to Canada to avoid the draft, but then Canada would draft me
Huh! I learn something new here at least a couple times a week.
shareShe may not have any documentation, but if you look at her facial features, really, what else could she be? I'm sure a 23&Me test would set this straight in no time.
shareShe looks mediterranean with a fake orange tan.
shareI don't see any Mediterranean look to her.
She actually looks exactly like Native Americans/First Nations Plains Tribes people of the 19th century as seen in historic photos, but not much at all like Native Americans of 2023. Her features, like nose and cheekbones, are much more pronounced than modern Natives, who mainly seem to have softer more rounded faces. Look at old photos of Natives and you will see how much she resembles the historic facial type.
She looks as Native as Cher did back in the 60s...
If you imagine her without the tan and weird hairstyle, she could just as well pass for Greek/Italian.
She has very similar features to this authentic 19th century Lakota, Kicking Bear.
https://i.etsystatic.com/5520048/r/il/8e352e/2785453231/il_fullxfull.2785453231_dntx.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Kicking_Bear_by_George_E._Spencer_1891_while_a_prisoner_of_war_at_Fort_Sheridan%2C_Illinois.jpg/1200px-Kicking_Bear_by_George_E._Spencer_1891_while_a_prisoner_of_war_at_Fort_Sheridan%2C_Illinois.jpg
I do not know any Italian women who look like Buffy Sainte-Marie.
Lol, come on. That guy has way higher cheekbones, a rounder face, slanted eyes and a totally different nose.
I guess you haven't seen that many Italian women then.
Just look at a photo of her and her ex-husband Sheldon Wolfchild to see how more European her features look.
Half of my dad's family were Italian women. None of them had faces like that.
Of course the guy in the picture had stronger features because he was a man.
You know, there are 80 million people of Italian descent in the world, they don't all look exactly the same. The large nose with the tip pointing downwards is a feature you'll often find in the mediterranean area. The noses of the guy in the picture and Sheldon Wolfchild are wide and more flat. Buffy looks more like she could pass for mixed-race.
"Of course the guy in the picture had stronger features because he was a man."
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"Of course the guy in the picture had stronger features because he was a man."
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Offended??? What the hell are you even talking about? Here let me give you another:
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"and not all of them have wide, flat noses."
I didn't even say that, I was comparing her to the guy in the picture. However you said her facial features are native american (clearly not compared to the two examples) and she couldn't pass for mediterranean. Which is interesting because I see CBC have now apparently published evidence that her biological father was Italian (while her mother was English). So there you go.
However you said her facial features are native american (clearly not compared to the two examples) and she couldn't pass for mediterranean.
Your example is simply not a very good example. What you say are similarities are actually differences. Even if there are similarities, it's certainly no proof those features are exclusively Native American.
Don't be so oversensitive. I'm not suggesting whatsoever everyone should've seen through her ruse. But you sound like someone who finds out a high school friend is a serial killer and says "He can't be guilty, he was always such a polite kid!". You were tricked, deal with it.
Anyway, the point is that you said that if "you look at her facial features, really, what else could she be?" And I simply responded saying she looked mediterranean with a fake orange tan. Turns out she is. And that's all.
I'm still amazed that you cannot see the similarities between them. I understand some people have a problem with that.
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Sacheen Littlefeather claimed to be native American and she wasn't
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/24/sacheen-littlefeather-faked-native-american-ancestry-say-family
Yeah, she was Mexican-American.
If Buffy Sainte-Marie is not really a native person, that means that there have been no truly famous Native women musicians in history. The most famous Native woman is probably now the actress, Tantoo Cardinal.
Well she has to be indigenous to somewhere, doesn't she?
shareRelevant stuff:
Do I like her personality?
Do I like her songs?
Irrelevant stuff:
Is she or is she not "indigenous"? I couldn't give a fuck.
Well, if she says she is and she isn't, that's something.
There are government benefits for indigenous people and if she took them away from someone else, that's not cool.
Apparently she isn't even Canadian!
sharei wonder why her parents went along with it?
https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/buffy-sainte-marie
Apparently she liked to threaten family members with legal action. I do wonder who suddenly decided to out her after all these years
But PLEASE tell me Graham Greene is still a native AND a Canadian!
high school pic
https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/content/images/_image_1920/1958_-_Wakefield_High_School_-_Senior_picture_with_profile_%282%29.png
If I were to guess based on that pic, either Iranian or Armenian.
sharelooks italian here
https://www.aptnnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/BUFFY1-1536x864.jpg
Latina.
sharei watched the fifth estate. her whole life is a lie. she started the lies in the 70s when here career was on the downside. the show provides documents like census records and even her own marriage certificate that she was born and raised in massachusetts and was white. her brother tried to set the record straight in the 70s but then she claimed he abused her as a kid.
my theory is that she wasn't a big enough star for most people to care back then. she wasn't as big as say an anne murray. the lies was there for everyone to see. a strange story.
The fact that she threatened her own brother speaks volumes about her character for me.
For those who didn't see the show, through lawyers, she threatened to report her brother as a child molester if he continued to speak out about her not being an Indian.
I guess she was fine with him being a molester and maybe molesting is own daughter or other children as long as he didn't cause trouble for her.
Here's the show if you missed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMsqCWNCUc4