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Do you think he'd ever win an election now?


I know there are a lot of crazy racists out there, but I don't think he would gain enough support to even come close.

NOTE: I'm not just talking about his policies while he was running, I mean everything he believed during the war is included.

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He didn't even win then.

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As chancellor, not dictator.

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he was appointed Chancellor , not elected

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Yeah, after a slew of electoral victories by the Nazi Party. Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg after he got to power by democratic means.

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Incorrect

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Didn't they teach you in school that you should back up your claims?

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Lol, nice (but still incorrect) edit, moron
😂

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Hey DarthStupid, read this: https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-nazi-rise-to-power/hitler-becomes-chancellor/

"In February 1932, Hitler ran against Hindenburg to become president. Goebbel’s propaganda campaign presented Hitler as a new, dynamic and modern leader for Germany. To emphasise this point, Hitler flew from venue to venue via aeroplane. Hitler lost the election, with 36.8% of the vote to Hindenburg’s 53%. Despite losing, people now viewed Hitler as a credible politician."

Then read this: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/adolf-hitler-is-named-chancellor-of-germany

"Following another Reichstag election in July 1932, the Nazis became the largest party with 230 seats and 37.3% of the vote."

Hindenburg, initially didn't want to appoint Hitler chancellor, but did so anyway after pressure.

"Hitler’s emergence as chancellor on January 30, 1933, marked a crucial turning point for Germany and, ultimately, for the world. His plan, embraced by much of the German population, was to do away with politics and make Germany a powerful, unified one-party state".

It's called sources. Ever heard about that?

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Only if enough people voted for him for the lulz

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Not sure they would go that far. Someone like Kanye maybe.

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he might get 30% of the vote in alberta.

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The hillbilly province. Sorry, sslssg.

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Of course. Italy just elected a fascist Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/27/the-election-of-italys-fascist-adjacent-giorgia-meloni-is-a-public-reminder-that-women-can-be-just-as-awful-as-men

France almost elected a fascist Prime Minister Marine Le Pen.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/marine-le-pen-far-right-leader-macron-french-president-election-rcna23814

It's very likely that Germany will elect a Fascist.

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Well, I mean someone who would openly say that a demographic should be murdered.

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But Hitler didn't campaign on that in 1933. In fact, most Germans didn't know what was going on in the death camps either. Or at least they claimed not to know - after the war.

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I know. I'm just wondering if you think we're racist enough in today's society to think his extremes were worth voting for.

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Well we've seen that in 2022 Italy or France could elect a fascist. It could happen.

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They knew. Lots of them worked there, or near there, and soldiers talk. They knew.

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Sure. But after the war when German citizens were forced to tour the death camps, they acted aghast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SUXTq47mmc

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Knowing and seeing are different things, but I believe they knew.
In America today we know that people are tortured at Guantanamo. We know INS locks up innocent citizens and deprives them of their rights, sometimes for years. We know Trump used Border Patrol to kidnap citizens and violate their rights. We know George Bush ordered the illegal seizure of private property. We know there were border camps where families were torn apart. We know that police kill more citizens than citizens kill police. That one of the biggest expenditures of police departments are the lawsuits over citizens being deprived rights, wrongful deaths, wrongful killing of animals, destruction of property, planting evidence, and just general misconduct and criminal behavior by police. In some places the birth defect rate is 1 in 3 children because of toxic waste. We know all of that and more and do nothing about it, the politicians do nothing, and the media ignores it.

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Please, stop with such careless smears.

No, Meloni is not a "fascist Prime Minister".

You cited an opinion piece which labeled her a "fascist-adjacent" politician. What does this mean? It means the opinion writer wanted to make people link her to fascism but was unable to do so because, well, Meloni is not a fascist. Instead, the author used "fascist-adjacent" to describe her so that Meloni could be smeared as being a fascist despite the lack of evidence that she is a fascist.

This happens time and time again with the leftist media. And yes, the author of the article is a leftist. Simply look at her bio. She's described as an "activist" who was drawn into "left-wing activism" while in college.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Badham

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Both The Guardian and NBC News are reputable sources. I'm not quoting spurious sources like Stormfront, The Daily Mail or Wikipedia, fool.

Do you really believe that in the land of Mussolini, Fascism has no modern descendants?

Hers is an updated 21st century Fascism.

The question on this thread is whether or not a Hitler could be elected in Europe in the 21st century. The answer is YES.

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Did you just call me "fool"? I'll set aside that personal attack and point out that the AUTHOR of the article is what is at issue (by the way, NBC News isn't exactly a completely trustworthy source).

The reality is that no, Meloni is not a "fascist Prime Minister" as you claimed.

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Meloni is not fascist anymore since years. She is a proud servant of UE/NATO and her electoral campaign was her basically admitting this. She wasnt voted for fascism reasons at all

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A rose by any other name is still a rose.

It is an undeniable fact that Meloni and her party descend from a fascist lineage. In 1946, remnants of Mussolini’s Republican Fascist Party formed the Italian Social Movement (MSI), becoming Mussolini’s de facto successor. After MSI came the National Alliance (NA), where Meloni’s political career began as a youth activist before forming the Brothers of Italy (FdI) in 2012.

Meloni has created distance from this history by marketing herself as conservative, not fascist. But contrary to her statements, Meloni has continued to cling to this fascist legacy. She has publicly praised Benito Mussolini and celebrates her fascist past by bearing MSI’s old logo, known as the tri-color flame, as FdI’s emblem. Salzman insists comparisons to Mussolini for Meloni’s use of “God, Homeland, and Family” as her slogan are outrageous. But Meloni is in fact reviving Mussolini’s own slogan and critics point to what this callback signals to people.

... it is a reach to suppose that these things are unrelated or coincidence, that Meloni’s adoption of fascist aesthetics occurs irrespective of her politics. Furthermore, evidence of Meloni’s fascism extends beyond her adherence to her fascist legacy.

Giorgia Meloni’s political messaging, her policies, and the underlying political ideology all reveal her fascism. Central to Giorgia Meloni’s platform is what she describes as “the defense of national Italian identity.” She positions this identity as under threat from an ill-defined enemy who seeks to “destroy everything that defines [Italians].” For Meloni, what defines Italians refers to the “Christian values” core to this identity: the centrality of the heteronormative nuclear family

http://thetartan.org/2022/10/31/forum/meloni-fascism

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Yes. He wasn't elected to kill Jews, he was elected to put Germany back on track. Americans make a big deal out of racism because we are a melting pot but Europe isn't a melting pot and cultures do not like other cultures coming in and taking control of their resources. Hitler didn't just kill Jews, he killed other ethnicities by the millions but they don't get the press. Jews allied with American Protestants and are basically worshiped by that group so they have gained a lot of power. Other ethnicities weren't so lucky so we don't hear about Hitler's other holocausts. But when people are convinced they have been victimized they are easily convinced to victimize others in return. The same applies today and is happening today even in America.

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Yes. He wasn't elected to kill Jews, he was elected to put Germany back on track.

Of course, but I mean knowing what we know now about him, would they still vote for him knowing what his real intentions are?

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"but I mean knowing what we know now about him,"

Well that changes your original OP question quite a bit , completely in fact.
I know it could be read either way , but most people took it the other way , cos why wouldnt ya

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I read it over, and I just realized it could be taken the other way.

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As long as there's mail-in votes and ballet harvesting he would.

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I've never witnessed ballet harvesting, but I'd imagine it'd be a magnificent sight.

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If you put his name on a ballot in America, it would amass to 81 million votes. Thats how dumb their voting base is

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I'm not American. Is 81 million enough to get elected because of the Electoral College?

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A large number of democrats in America would vote for Hitler if he was on the ballot for the democrat nominee. Thats how brainwashed they are

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Probably. A lot of psychos out there.

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Hitler didn't win an election then. He was appointed

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Germany has a parliamentary system. The people didn't elect the Chancellor. He was appointed by the legislature (the Bundestag). The Prime Minister of the UK isn't elected either. He's appointed.

But bottom line, the German people wanted Hitler as Chancellor and they elected his party to control the Bundestag so the Bundestag would make him Chancellor.

Bottomline, Hitler won the election in 1933.

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Hi buddy!

Hitler was appointed chancellor by the president in 1933

He took charge when the president died in 1934

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Darth OMG!!! 🤣

But my point is that the Nazis were elected into the Bundestag. They were winning elections. Hitler had popular electoral support. That's why he was appointed Chancellor.

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Very true, but only 33 and 44 percent of the vote

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Yeah, coalition politics under a parliamentary system where a majority is not necessary.

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