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Congratulations...Homophobe


Always respected this sexy, talented dude - until today. Elliot has revealed himself as a true homoohobic ass. On a recent podcast, Elliot denounced "The Power of the Dog" because, according to him the characters weren't real cowboys, but ""Chippendale dancers." He further criticized the film's "allusions to homosexuality", basically stating cowboys were never gay. Uh-uh.

This formerly cool actor is no longer cool, and at 77, now comes across like a bigoted, ignorant 90-something.

So sad to see this man's fall from grace.

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Being gay doesn't make you special, it's just another fetish. Stop being so entitled.

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people with fetishes can still be normal and have kids. it is a disease not a fetish

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Gay people have kids, that's how we know it's a fetish.

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gay people can have kids?!? holy smokes that is news to me!! i didnt know putting jizz in a dudes dirty asshole can result in the miracle of life 😂

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Yes, gay people have kids. Did mommy and daddy not explain the birds and bees? Daddy puts his penis in mommy's vagina and shoots sperm missiles into her eggs, making a parasite grow in mommy's belly. Homosexuality is a fetish for one's own gender, it doesn't mean daddy's pee pee doesn't get hard for mommy. Gay men have even been known to marry women, and make babies.

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yeah but they just do that to fit in around there family and the community a lot of the time

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Cowboys were never gay?

Now really, what kind of man would want to leave all the comforts of home and civilization to go out and live out on the frontier, where 80% of the population was male.

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It was the way they made their money moron. You will note that he saloons they went to spend their money in were filled with female whores not chicken boys. If they were gay do you think they would be buying pussy?

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Oh, landowners, prospectors, railroad tycoons, and fur trappers went out west to make their fortunes, and sometimes planned to bring it back home, but cowboys didn't make any money! Cowboys were poorly paid ranchhands, who didn't make enough money to marry a woman and have a family, and who lived in bunkhouses with other fit young men, and who might travel from job to job with a male "pardner"!

Seriously, there were a lot of reasons people left civilization and went out on the frontier, and why the hell wouldn't the gay young men of the day want to go live someplace where they wouldn't constantly be pressured to marry a woman. The reality of the Old West was nothing like the movie mythos, the real Old West was full of real human beings of every stripe, and a real cowboy might be wanted by the law back home or an immigrant from the less fashionable parts of Europe, or a freed/escaped slave, or a Mexican who remembered how things were before all the white people arrived, and who knows. Maybe some of the "pardners" who did everything together were more than friends. Same-sex orientation has always existed, and it existed on the American frontier.

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In that time period butt fuckers weren't as accepted as they are today. If you were out there looking to be singing the YMCA song you would quickly be tarred and feathered or worse.

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That may not be true. In prison, the military, and other all-male environments, a certain amount of quiet homosex is accepted as normal, because a man's got to have some relief, you know, and there aren't any women around. Who knows, maybe the coyboy bunkhouses were like that, and some of the pardners who stuck together through thick and thin weren't just honely heterosexuals.

We don't know, because literacy wasn't a requirement for a real-life Old West cowboy, and if any real cowboys had ever written an honest account of how the men of the day really dealt with the absence of women... nobody would have published or even archived it. And that's how gay history has been lost, nobody was allowed to record it.

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As usual context is everything. Sam Elliott as you say is 77 years old, born in 1944, and guys from that long ago grew up with Westerns as the embodiment of masculinity. Manly men doing what a man's got to do. So when a man like Sam Elliott sees a Woke Western like 'The Power of the Dog' which sets out to subvert and undermine the traditional Western he doesn't like it. And that is perfectly okay.


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It was a pretty disjointed rant by Elliott. He criticized TPofD for having cowboys wearing chaps without shirts (he seems to be fixated on that image -i don't remember it) for being filmed in New Zealand pretending to be Montana (what about all the westerns by his darling Clint Eastwood that were filmed in Italy?) , for being directed by someone who wasn't from cowboy country (he's from Sacramento), and because an stocks in a Hollywood paper said it "eviscerated the American myth." First of all, you judge a movie by what a reviewer said??? Second, movies he said he loved, such as Liberty Valance and Unforgiven were considered to be Mythbusting "anti-westerns" when they came out.

These inconsistencies seem like illogical excuse making suggest that it was just the idea of that he objected to.

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He's not wrong, though.

It was a combination of all these elements plus the movie's intent that he's objected to as a culmination of reasons for his disgust.

He criticized TPofD for having cowboys wearing chaps without shirts (he seems to be fixated on that image -i don't remember it)


Uhh, anyone who was paying attention to the film would have noticed the entire second half was FILLED to the brim with homoerotic imagery, including lots of shirtless cowboys, lots of nude cowboys frolicking in the lake, a gay cowboy masturbation scene, and more nude lake frolicking where a gay man spies on another man bathing naked.

The subversion and correlating of cowboy culture and western masculinity with homosexuality became the entire point of the film after the second half. Anyone who grew up loving westerns would probably be disturbed at what the film was deliberately trying to infer.

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I'm glad they are disturbed.

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I'm glad they are disturbed.

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oh is that bad ass guy from the big Lebowski!! wow i didn't know who is a homophobe?!? that's awesome!!!! I am respect him even more now!!!!

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Agreed, I thought the same as you.
And I am not gay nor a fan of tPotD.
But he does sound homophobic.
I bet there were plenty of chaps wearing fags in the west, or at least some, and this movie was realistic in that portrayal.

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No one has to like what you like you asshole so go back to jacking it to Brokeback Mountain in your basement.

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Did he actually say "cowboys were never gay" or are you extrapolating that?

There's no doubt that gay cowboys existed, but did they "act" gay? Seems to me that's his point unless your context is correct.

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What about the Cowboy in Village People?

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Hmm.. I hereby withdraw my previous observations.

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To be fair, they did have a Native American too.

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