Hamas
Huge pushback towards Tom as he supports Hamas
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz80FfIssN0/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==
He has not granted his support for the Jew
Now I hope his Dead Reckoning Part 2 flops because of this..
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It is kind of scary how much Israeli influence is in US.
It is like free speech no longer exists, or perhaps never existed.
Even more scary is the muslim influence in the US and especially Europe. You can't say anything negative about Islam or muslims or you're immediately accused of being islamophobic or racist. Talk about lack of free speech...🍆
shareMaybe you can give an example of such things happening, or are you just saying baseless things?
shareEurope's Jewish population has dropped 60% in last 50 years
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/25/europes-jewish-population-has-dropped-60-in-last-50-years
Europe’s Growing Muslim Population
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/
The term Muslim Europe is used for the predominantly Muslim countries of Europe, including Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Turkey, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. It is also used for the Muslim community in Europe. Islam has had a historical stronghold in the Balkans since the Ottoman wars in Europe.[1]
Islam in Kosovo, 95.6% (2011 census)[2]
Islam in Albania, 58.79% (2011 census)[3]
Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina, 50.7% (2013 census)[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Europe#cite_note-4
There are 44 Million Muslims in Europe alone compared to 16 Million Jews in the World. The countries above are all majority Muslim countries in Europe. Do you know how many Jewish majority countries there are in Europe: zero. As a matter of fact, Israel is the only majority Jewish country. Muslims are the majority in 49 countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world#:~:text=Current%20estimates%20conclude%20that%20the,Muslim%20population%20in%20the%20world.
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I think Jewish population drop might have something to do with they now have their own country, a lot migrated to Israel.
Muslim population growth I think was due to various middle east refugee crises, those people were not born in Europe.
Some of those refugee crises were due to wars having something to do with Israel and US.
Those refugee crises were so serious, it became one of the main reasons UK leaving EU, at least that was their campaign told the public.
"Muslim population growth I think was due to various middle east refugee crises, those people were not born in Europe."
You clearly have no freaking clue what you're talking about and did not even bother to read this link that sam posted:
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/
I just read it. It started by saying that Muslim population growth was due to asylum seekers.
So did you even read the article you posted?
So did you even read the article beyond the introduction? The point of the article was not about the influx of "refugees" in recent years, but that the muslim population in Europe will grow even without any immigration.
shareYes, the main reason given in the article was that the asylum seekers were mostly at young age, and in future they will have children.
share"asylum seekers were mostly at young age"
Liar, the article said "muslims", are younger and have higher fertility than Europeans, not "asylum seekers".
The "asylum seekers" was the term used by the article, and they were mostly Muslims.
Just how desperate are you to call that lying?
But I think it shows what you are. The more you talk the more obvious.
You are a liar, and now everyone can see it for themselves:
"Even if all migration into Europe were to immediately and permanently stop – a “zero migration” scenario – the Muslim population of Europe still would be expected to rise from the current level of 4.9% to 7.4% by the year 2050. This is because Muslims are younger (by 13 years, on average) and have higher fertility (one child more per woman, on average) than other Europeans, mirroring a global pattern."
How old are you? 5?
Anyway, this discussion gets less and less intelligent as it went on. I think I wasted enough of my time on you.
So you are now on my ignore list.
"How old are you? 5?"
Why? Because your own mental capacity is that of a 3-year old?
"Anyway, this discussion gets less and less intelligent as it went on"
Yes, it seems you're suffering from some kind of neurodegenerative disease.
"So you are now on my ignore list."
Yes, that would be the wise thing to do after I proved you wrong that many times.
Can I be on your ignore list too please?
shareI think Jewish population drop might have something to do with they now have their own country, a lot migrated to Israel.
There are less Jews alive today than before the Holocaust.
Some of those refugee crises were due to wars having something to do with Israel and US.
Why not go to other Muslim countries? They have 49 countries to choose from.
"In 2012, there were six armed conflicts with more than 1000 battle deaths. All of them took place within Muslim countries—in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen. Of the nine rebel groups in these conflicts, seven had an Islamist ideology."
(Scroll down to the first chart. You'll see that Islamic countries are more prone to fighting countries within their own religion by proportion.)
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2053168016646392 share
There are less Jews alive today than before the Holocaust.
I have no idea whether that is true or not. You need to cite your source. Though even it is true, what does that mean? Jewish people are more of a part of religion than ethnic group, maybe they converted to something else. Maybe Hitler did a thorough job. Maybe they didn't want kids.
The point is I don't see any point of this.
Why not go to other Muslim countries? They have 49 countries to choose from.
I think most did, Europe is a long way, only really the young and healthy can survive the journey, so only they were going.
Also a lot of middle east countries were constantly bombed by US and Israel. Israel recently announced they were bombing, and at war with, 6 middle eastern countries. And Israel used so many bombs, and US had to prioritise the delivery and causing the losing of current Ukraine war.
I think the idea was that why go to places not much better. share
I have no idea whether that is true or not. You need to cite your source.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/world/global-population-of-jews-still-not-recovered-from-the-holocaust-demographic-study-finds/wcm/87314966-8f73-4bfd-8e86-f22a88dd7a0c/amp/
https://jewishunpacked.com/15-million-global-jewish-population-still-far-below-pre-holocaust-numbers-europe-sees-massive-declines/
Also a lot of middle east countries were constantly bombed by US and Israel.
Sure, but as the link I provided shows, Muslim majority countries are at war within themselves than other religion. But you also have the case of ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Houthi and the Taliban wreaking havoc around the world. Those are all Islamic terrorist organizations. No other religion has that many prominent terrorist organizations within them. There's a reason why countries like the USA attack them. Think about how Israel feels being the only Jewish country in the Middle East and is surrounded by terrorism in every direction including Northern Africa. share
Not all terrorism is unwarranted. For example, US used nuclear bombs on Japan, that without a doubt is a terrorist act. But many mainstream media, at least the US ones, argued it was warranted.
Take Hamas for example, which is a Palestinian terrorist group. At least US called them that.
But think what was happening to Gaza, it was walled by Israel on all sides, Egypt also built walls at their borders at the request of Israel. Even the shores were guarded by Israeli navy, over decades at least 20 humanitarian ships with food and medicine, most of them were actually from US, were stopped by Israeli navy, nothing could get through.
People in Gaza survived because hundreds of tunnels at Egypt borders, which were less guarded. Some of them so large you can drive cars through them.
I think what Israel was trying to do was a quiet genocide, starving people in Gaza to death, so they can occupy and absorb Gaza. It was quite obvious what Israel was trying to do, now they are just doing it less quietly.
So I would not blame people in Gaza becoming terrorists, the alternative is dying quietly.
Not all terrorism is unwarranted. For example, US used nuclear bombs on Japan, that without a doubt is a terrorist act.
But it's not a terrorist organization. But the example you gave is why it's difficult to say that Israel is committing genocide. If it wasn't considered genocide when the USA did it to the Japanese, why is it considered genocide when Israel retaliates against Hamas after Oct 7th?
I think what Israel was trying to do was a quiet genocide, starving people in Gaza to death, so they can occupy and absorb Gaza.
The entirety of Palestine was taken away from Jews by the Roman Empire. The Quran itself mentions Israel being Jewish lands multiple times. There is not a single mention of Palestine.
https://www.templemount.org/quranland.html
So I would not blame people in Gaza becoming terrorists, the alternative is dying quietly.
Of course you can blame them. They were democratically voted in. The citizens of Palestine have yet to attempt to overthrow them just like how Egypt tried to do with their government a few years ago.
https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/25090/what-was-palestine-called-in-the-quran
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It is not about who's land it is, that kind of disputes could only be resolved by force or threat of force.
The quiet genocide Israel has implemented was over several decades, long before Hamas was even formed.
This discussion is about genocide is wrong, if you still don't get that, if you are still not outraged by it, then you don't have much moral fibre in you, and it is pointless to continue this discussion.
Was it genocide when the USA bombed Japan killing at least 130,000 people after they attacked Pearl Harbor who killed only 2400? Both sides think they're right and are going to act on it.
shareI think genocide would be more like killing or trying to kill all of Japanese, like Israel was planning to kill or starve all of the residents of Gaza.
But you can argue what US did to those 2 cities was genocide, because the intention was to kill all civilians, or as much as possible in those 2 cities.
And US justified that because Axis nations were genociders, Germany and Italy systematically killing Jews, and Japan implemented civilian massacres in many Asian countries, most notably the infamous Nanjing massacre, and Japan at the time had a notorious "Unit 731" developed and tested bio weapons for mass killing, with the intention of using them for genocide.
Anyway I still think what US did was wrong, targeting civilians is always wrong. Though at the time the both sides of the war were doing it.
For the same reason I think what Israel did was wrong. And what did people of Gaza do to Israel, other than living on that land?
I think genocide would be more like killing or trying to kill all of Japanese
The USA dropped atomic bombs on Japan. That seems like a blatant attempt at genocide considering that no country before or after has used an atomic bomb... and the USA dropped two of them.
I think what Israel and Palestine are doing are both wrong, but I side more with Israel simply for the fact that I believe it was their land to begin with. Muslim countries have a history of overtaking other countries. Lebabon used to be majority Catholic in the 60s but is now majority Muslim. But as I stated earlier, Israel is surrounded by terrorist organizations in every direction. They don't want to suffer the same fate as Lebanon.
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The intention of USA was not to kill all of Japanese, I think that was the difference, more of terrorism I would argue. But both were wrong regardless.
I think what Israel and Palestine are doing are both wrong, but I side more with Israel simply for the fact that I believe it was their land to begin with.
What did people of Gaza do wrong? Because they did not die as Israel requested and resorting to terrorism to stay alive?
Due to the perceived rights of Israel owning the land, it is OK to implement genocide? No people have the birth rights to own a land, I think it is quite disgusting to use that as an excuse justifying genocide.
Anyway, I don't think you have anything new to say, so I will leave you here. share
What did people of Gaza doing wrong? Resorting to terrorism to stay alive?
They democratically voted in Hamas. Hamas was responsible for the October 7th attacks on innocent citizens. Before Hamas, Palestine was also responsible the the Islamic terrorist organization the PLO which began in 1965. How many terrorist organizations do they need?
Just look at the logo for one of their political parties. This one isn't even a terrorist organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah
They have always supported terrorism. Distributing sweets after a terrorist attack is part of their culture. And not just attacks against Israel.
Palestinians: Why do you give out sweets after a terror attack? (this one is the most important video here. You should read the comments too.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sUpff50vs8&t=408s
Palestinians celebrate Jerusalem synagogue attack (from one year ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xPNTbtUHVc
Palestinians CELEBRATE With Sweets After Terrorists Murder 3 Israelis Using Hatchets and Knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehT7uXyDmMA share
How about you PROVE the shit that you're spouting...
shareOP proved it, I just commented on it.
But if you insist there are some academic people such as Dr. John Mearsheimer talking about these things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYdPSAlhLQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Mgdm_6-e0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTksWA1I2UI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJtLY7KsJo
Of course there are other academics, but their illustration on the topic was less interesting to sit through.
"OP proved it, I just commented on it."
OP just posted a unfounded story from the Kuwait Times that Tom Cruise supposedly showed support for his manager after she made anti-Israel remarks, nothing more. You just pulled a whole lot of shit out of your ass.
I see Mr. Mearsheimer being able to say as much much nonsense as he wants to say. Your claim has been dismissed.🍆
Dr. Mearsheimer is very much respected in academic circle, your dismissal of him said more about you than him.
Anyway, it is quite clear you are just an ignorant person without any shame.
I think that concludes our discussion.
"your dismissal of him"
Your comprehension skills are extremely lacking. I dismissed you, not him. Mr. Mearsheimer has not been jailed for expressing his views, quite the opposite according to you, so your point is moot.
"I think that concludes our discussion."
Yes, be a good little troll and run back under your bridge.🍆
Mr. Mearsheimer has not been jailed for expressing his views, quite the opposite according to you, so your point is moot.
But main stream media rarely quote his opinions, I think most people don't know what he said. That is why he was mostly known in academic circle.
That is free speech for you. Mainstream media owners decide who can be heard.
Yes, be a good little troll and run back under your bridge.🍆
That is clearly what you are. Like what I said before you are clearly without any shame.
The very representation of Israeli lobby. share
"That is free speech for you. Mainstream media owners decide who can be heard."
The mainstream media doesn't quote me either, in fact, they don't quote the majority of the people on this earth. That's no proof that he's denied his free speech. As a matter of fact, the main stream media have quoted quite a lot of anti-Israel celebrities.
Sure, Israel pays me to call out the shit of trolls on an insignificant movie site.🙄
You lie, even when presented with the facts. Talk about having no shame.
LOL... These days, if you say you're English, you'll be arrested and thrown in jail.
sharei suspect there will be terror attacks in europe in the coming weeks and they won't be committed by jews.
shareSucks especially if you yourself hail from a Muslim background, and you dare to stand up on stage and joke about your heritage
I say this as someone who does so regularly
He is very pro the Jew!
sharewhat does Suri think ?
shareHe never supported Hamas, moron! InstaCrap is not credible.
share"kuwaittimes". Such a reliable source...
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