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Christopher Nolan has surpassed him.


Nolan's films are higher up in the top 250 list.

The Dark Knight - #4
Inception - #14
Interstellar - #32
Memento - #47
The Dark Knight Rises - #62



Kubrick:

The Shining - #58
A Clockwork Orange - #80
Full Metal Jacket - #87
2001: A Space Odyssey - #90


Nolan also has way more votes. And his movies are much better.

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Modern technology is going to appeal to younger people who are more inclined to vote for more modern movies. He's more popular right now, but that's not the same as higher quality.

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Both are great directors but Nolan wins hands down, he's only made two films that weren't masterpieces (Insomnia, Dunkirk).

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I wouldn't call TDK, Interstellar or TDKR masterpieces, but that's just me. Inception had something going on, but only for one viewing. I haven't been able to finish it for the second time without falling to sleep (which might be seen appropriate, considering the subject matter).

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Those are his three greatest films, they are all masterpieces.

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Oowwww you.

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DKK is a WW2 masterpiece, man. In 50 years people will keep watching it. TKD movies are good and entertaining but when all this comic book craze stops, people will watch movies with more substance.

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Not even close, if we just did a ranking of the best Spielberg/Nolan WWII movies Dunkirk wouldn't even make the top 3. It's easily his weakest film.

I don't even like TDK for being a Batman movie, I love it for being a great movie all together.

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I like alot of Nolan's movies but TDKR disqualifies him from any "best" award. That movie is dogshit.

Kube may be overrated but he makes better movies than Nolan. And I'm not a big Kube fan.

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TDKR is his best film and as far as I'm concerned is the greatest third entry of any franchise and aside from Godfather Part II and Empire Strikes Back is the greatest sequel ever.

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I really can't decide if you are a troll, only want to trigger people or you are actually so blinded by Nolan's fanboyism that you actually believe TDKR is a absolute masterpiece?

Listen, you have the right to like the movie (I don't and I make it clear). You can even think it's excellent if you want. Damn, I even accept that you legitimately think that it's a masterpiece. All this is highly subjective and personal.

However, harassing people (like you reportedly do) because they disagree with you? Come on...

And objectively speaking: no it is not at same level as Godfather part.2 or Empire Strikes Back. It's not even in the same league.

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To me it is and yes this is all subjective (therefore your last paragraph is invalid). TDKR is one of my favorites of all time. Who have I been harassing?

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Well there's this user arflexit. I know you both argued over who's gonna stop responding first and he told me that you've been harassing him. Honestly, from what's I've seen, it seemed like he could have simply stopped responding you, but I didn't read all.

I don't know the whole story and I'm simply aware of one side of it.

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I see, and yes it did go both ways and there was no harassment.

Either way film is art and art is subjective, all anyone ever talks about here is their subjective opinion. I could rate Disaster Movie above The Godfather and you can't tell me I'm wrong (nor can I tell you you are wrong), all you can say is that you disagree and that your subjective opinion is different.

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The most distinguishing feature of Nolan fanboys is their complete and total lack of taste. Kubrick is immortal. Nothing Nolan has made will last past this generation.

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Well said! Nolan is not without some directorial talent, but he always winds up going for the overblown, overwrought, and bombastic, as if he doesn't trust the intelligence of his audience, and has to cater to them & make things easy for them. Kubrick did trust the intelligence of his audience, refusing to dumb-down for them or spoon-feed to them.

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Kubrick did trust the intelligence of his audience, refusing to dumb-down for them or spoon-feed to them.

And when you finish to watch his movies, you are kept thinking about them. He leaves thing to the interpretation of the audience.

We analyzed The Shining and Stanley Kubrick's techniques during my film studies in college and the guy was a perfectionist, a visionary and a somehow reserved and mysterious person. Some say that Kubrick's fans over analyze his movies and see stuff that isn't there. Even if some people do actually go a bit too deep into their analysis, it was somehow the intention of Kubrick. This is why he barely talked about his movies in interviews. He wanted the audience to figure them out.

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That's one of the things I love most about his work. He does leave you thinking about what you've seen, and then asking further questions about it. He actually invites the viewer to be a participant in the ideas, images & issues that his films depict so beautifully. The last he ever wanted was for the viewer to simply be a passive recipient.

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Lulz.

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THEY ARE BOTH EXCELLENT DIRECTORS WITH DISTINCT VISIONS WHO MAKE FLAWED FILMS THAT ARE REMEMBERED WITH ROSE COLORED GLASSES BY DORKS AND DWEEBS🙂

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The Imdb 250 is a popularity contest.
I'm a fan of Nolan but his movies have no subtext. You can watch Kubrick movies multiple times and discover new things, different interpretations.

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^^^^
This.

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Absolutely! I rewatched Inception not too long ago for the first time in years, and it seemed like there was nothing deeper to the film beyond questioning whether the end in a dream or reality whereas Kubrick's films have elements and leaves questions that have baffled audiences for decades.

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Well if you want to put it down to popularity Victor Fleming is well above both of them. You see the only real way to look at the films and really judge them is to look at the percentage of the total population versus the total tickets sold for the movie to get a percentage of people that voted with their pocketbooks on a movie. Gone with the Wind had a much higher percentage of the people going to see it than any of the movies by either Kubrick or Nolan.

See, lots of different ways to look at things and my way is just as valid as your way.

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