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Michael Rapaport, Debra Messing denounce Oscar winner's speech with 450 other Jewish entertainers


https://www.foxnews.com/media/michael-rapaport-debra-messing-denounce-oscar-winners-speech-450-jewish-entertainers

Top Hollywood stars like Debra Messing and Julianna Margulies are among over 450 Jewish individuals in the entertainment industry denouncing "The Zone of Interest" director Jonathan Glazer's controversial Oscars acceptance speech about the Israel-Hamas war.

"We refute our Jewishness being hijacked for the purpose of drawing a moral equivalence between a Nazi regime that sought to exterminate a race of people, and an Israeli nation that seeks to avert its own extermination," an open letter first reported Monday by Variety read. "Every civilian death in Gaza is tragic. But Israel is not targeting civilians. It is targeting Hamas. The moment Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders is the moment this heartbreaking war ends. This has been true since the Hamas attacks of October 7th."

The signatories continued, "The use of words like ‘occupation’ to describe an indigenous Jewish people defending a homeland that dates back thousands of years, and has been recognized as a state by the United Nations, distorts history. It gives credence to the modern blood libel that fuels a growing anti-Jewish hatred around the world, in the United States, and in Hollywood. The current climate of growing antisemitism only underscores the need for the Jewish State of Israel, a place which will always take us in, as no state did during the Holocaust depicted in Mr. Glazer’s film."


I feel like Michael Rappaport is only around when he has something or someone to bitch about?? Can't remember the last movie he was in?? COPLAND(1997)??

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Copland? Wtf? Try fast forwarding a decade there bro. Justified season 4 or 5?

Signed, million man

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Hey COPLAND was good, if for anything, the supporting cast carried it

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As a rule I wouldn’t support most of the rhetoric coming out of Hollywood, but I wholeheartedly support what the above noted stars have said. The only problem being was their denouncement of Jonathan Glazer's Oscar acceptance speech wasn’t strong enough. They should have throughly raked him over the coals.

A one way ticket to visit the extermination camp for Jews, et al, in Auschwitz, Poland would be a good start. Afterwards locking Glazer in a room where he would have to watch footage from the Nuremberg Trials over and over. Hitler and his henchmen Nazis were so proud of their “Nazi Plan” they actually filmed the atrocities! Those films were shown at the trials.

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Celebrities ay? They love to comment on stuff.

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Glazer's speech condemned both Hamas and the Israeli bombing of civilians in Gaza. This looks more to me like a bunch of Zionists trying to silence any criticism whatsoever of right wing Likud and Netanyahu.

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This is the problem, that he condemned both of them, and not only the Hamas-Nazis who murder children, women and men in cooperation with the Palestinians themselves. Israel have the right to defend itself and if you ask me the only unmoral thing they do is not using more power. And to said that they try to silence any criticism about Likud and Netanyahu shows incredible ignorance in everything to do with Israeli politics and American Judaism.

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This is not defending.
This is a genocidal, ethnic cleansing slaughter of the innocent by the IDF terrorist Nazis.

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You don't know nothing about genocidal, you just throwing words. The only ones with genocidal tendency are the Palestinians. They are the only ones who rape women, murder children, burn people alive and kidnap civilians including a one-year-old child. The IDF conducts itself in an overly strict manner when it comes to human rights in Gaza, sometimes to the point of endangering their own soldiers.

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I wanna smoke what you are on that I can also alter my reality that badly and ramble on like a crackpot as you do.

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You want me to send you videos of what your friends, the Palestinians, do on the seventh of October?

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No thanx.
I don't need to see the lies and propaganda and one sided BS story Israel put out from one who is as full of shit about this as you are.

Besides, whatever rare truths there are to 10/7 pales in comparison to the mass murder the Nazi terrorist IDF is doing to the innocents putting them through a holocaust.

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Of course you won't want to watch the videos because it will be very hard for you to deny the horror your friends do, you not different than any holocaust deniers. By the way, most videos come from the Palestinians themselves who were proud of the murder of women, men, children, and elderly people.

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Do the videos show when the IDF knowingly fired at the hostages killing them?
Which they did because they would rather have them dead than to negotiate for their release later on.

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I totally back Netanyahu and Israel. Former Prime Minister Barak is another Neville Chamberlain. 99% of terrorism and wars occurring currently in the world involves Muslims who have initiated the wars. It’s been happening for hundreds of years.

People don’t realize the Crusades were waged against Muslims who were slaughtering Christians.

”The Crusades were a measured, rational response to violent and unchecked Islamic invasion and colonization.”

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This is defending just as the Allies were defending when they carpet bombed Germany and Japan during World War II. At least 300,000 civilians were killed by bombing in both Germany and Japan during World War II and that wasn't genocide so what Israel is doing is that much more clearly not genocide. And it's not ethnic cleansing because the Gazans are all still in Gaza.

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No, bombing civilians, killing families and their children, who have no means to defend themselves, is barbaric. The civilians of Gaza are not responsible for Hamas' terrorist attacks. Even if you disagree, fine, lets have a debate where two sides can be heard.

What Rapaport and these other celebrities are trying to do is silence any defense of the civilians in Gaza who not only have no voice, they have no army to defend themselves against Israel.

Israel told them to leave or die. This sounds like ethnic cleansing to me.

You'll see. After these fascists have destroyed Gaza, they will be tried for war crimes by the International Court of Justice.

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The IDF didn't fight against the civilians of Gaza although most of them support Hamas and many of them collaborated with them and participated in the massacre. I myself was in Gaza and I can tell you that in all the houses you could find weapons and incendiary materials (including Mein Kampf books and textbooks that educate children to kill Jews).

In the same way that the Allies did not separate the Nazi regime from Germany, we should not separate Hamas from Gaza. Civilians casualties is part of the war, Hamas uses them as human shields. But the Gaza civilians can only blame themselves for support Hamas and mass murder.

The IDF didn't fight to kill Civilians - only terrorist. They don't bombing civilians, they kill terrorists and destroy a Terror structure (such as tunnels). Most of the main terrorist centers are in civilian buildings such as hospitals, schools, universities, and of course UNRA buildings, which is de-facto terrorist organization. It is a challenging combat area and still the number of civilians killed is relatively small. And I said earlier, the IDF is too considerate of the citizens of Gaza and puts the soldiers at risk.

I heard the fucking lie about ethnic cleansing for decades by some idiots and for some reason the population of Gaza only growing. And let's not talk about the fact that there were plenty of opportunities to invade Gaza before and Israel did not do it. They waste hundreds of millions of dollars the world give them to help civilians to finance 500 km of terror tunnels.

As in any war, Gazans are required to evacuate to safe places. This is how any war work. De-Nazification of Gaza (and the seventh of October proved that they are just like the Nazis), in the long run, it is good for both Israel and the citizens of Gaza.

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I disagree with you and so does the International Court of Justice.

(The Hague, February 26, 2024) – The Israeli government has failed to comply with at least one measure in the legally binding order from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in South Africa’s genocide case, Human Rights Watch said today. Citing warnings about “catastrophic conditions” in Gaza, the court ordered Israel on January 26, 2024, to “take immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian aid,” and to report back on its compliance to the specific measures “within one month.”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case


I'm sick of debating this with religious zealots who believe god grants 3000 year old land deeds to anybody, not even Ashkenazi Jews from Europe.

And I'm not gonna post videos of giggling Israeli soldiers blowing up abandoned mosques, schools, hospitals et al.

It's an issue of European colonialism, and the world needs to find a place for the Palestinian people who were driven off their land by Ashkenazi Jewish settlers from Europe.

Bottom line, a bunch of wealthy American Jewish celebrities are saying only one side can be heard. That's bullshit. And those of us who believe in justice for the civilians of Gaza will not be silenced.

No, only one side cannot have the podium.

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The International Court of Justice today is no more than a political institution just like the UN itself who choose the judges. It's similar to prosecuting the Allies in WWII for war crimes - ridiculous. And anyway, Gaza get humanitarian aid even before the decision. Hamas steals large parts of it and sells it on the gray market, which only prolongs the war. The Israeli hostages in Gaza did not even receive visits from the Red Cross.

IDF soliders blowing terrorist bases is that what you're whining about? They are abandoned because the IDF informs the residents to evacuate before the bombing. Just proves my point that the IDF behaves morally (too much if you ask me). And as I said early, this is the same buildings that Hamas choose to sustain his organization. A civilian structure controlled by a terrorist organization or becomes a terrorist base is no longer considered a civilian structure but a terrorist target. And I love that videos. There should be a price for the carnage your friends in Gaza have committed.

The fact that you and others on the site continue to deny and/or support the massacre committed by Hamas and Palestinian civilians shows how immoral a person you are. In Nova Festival the Palestininan murder 364 people, rape women (including the insertion of sharp objects into the genitals) and 44 civilians were kidnapped. You a Rock fan, it's like committing a massacre at Woodstock.

It's not their land, it's Israel land. They could turn Gaza into Singapore but their main goal is not a state but the destruction of Israel. Read a bit about the PLO's "steps plan" for the destruction of Israel (for example, Johannesburg speech of Arafat) and the Agreement of Hudaibiya, which is an integral part of the Palestinians' political and military worldview. The seventh of October proved that they must not be given a state until several decades of de-Nazification have passed.

Well done for the brave American Jewish celebrities that are signed on this statement.

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No, the buildings were blown up after the IDF had secured the area. The point here is that the invasion was malicious revenge against innocent civilians, not Hamas.

These Jewish celebrities sit comfortably in their American homes, pontificating about the evil of innocent Palestinians digging through the rubble of their homes to find dead and injured relatives.

And now they try to silence anyone who questions their smug support for genocide.

The only Nazis here are Likud.

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The war is against Hamas. I don't know a single country in the world that would not have fought after such a massacre. And as I said earlier, there is no big difference between Hamas and Gaza civilians. And all the "innocent" mosques and schools that get bomb were actually used for terrorism - a legitimate target for elimination.

The Nazis are Hamas and the civilians in Gaza who support them. The antisemitic are people like you who keep support the massacre of thousands of civilians and rape of women. It is no coincidence that you continue to ignore the atrocities committed by your Palestinian friends.

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Many Jews oppose what the right wing government in Israel is doing now. Don't give me this anti-Semitic bullshit. I hate to see innocent civilians suffering for Israel's revenge against Hamas.

You people only see one side and only want one side to heard. I support Israel's right to exist now that it's been there for 75 years. But you're a monster if you want children to die to avenge a terrorist attack on a rock concert.

Neither the speaker at the Oscars nor any of us who oppose the bombing of Gaza support Hamas.

And how are crowded refugee camps blockaded for two decades by Israel supposed to turn into Singapore? What rubbish.

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They have millions of dollars to build a terrorist state but not help their own citizens? And why would Israel agree to cooperate with a terrorist state led by Hamas? Hamas attacked Israel with tens of thousands of missiles, Israel's right to defend itself. Israel's mistake for not conquering Gaza 15 years ago.

You expect Israel to absorb terrorism, just because in your delusional identity politics the Palestinians are always the victim - even if they burn people alive and rape women.

You are just a piece of shit who tries to appear moral when in reality you support violence and terror.

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Palestinian civilians are not Hamas. Israel has one of the best equipped armies on earth and they're turning it on an impoverished people who have no means of defense.

1200 Israelis were killed by Hamas. 30,000 plus Palestinian civilians, half of children, have been slaughtered in revenge by Israel.

If you can't see the problem there, maybe you'll see it when the world finally tries Netanyahu and his generals for war crimes. They are no better than Hitler and the Nazis at this point.

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You have a twisted mind, the Palestinians-Hamas cut off the heads of babies, men and women, brutally raped women, burned people alive, burned houses with their occupants, even killed the animals, and they filmed everything while laughing and joking around. These were not only Hamas members, in the second wave of the break-in into Israel, Palestinian citizens entered Israel and participated in the massacre also. And one more thing, support for Hamas only increased among the Palestinians. Most Palestinians support the massacre. But who do you call Nazis? Israel which protects their citizens from these monsters. It's like calling the allies Nazis.

Israel must not stop the war until it conquers all of Gaza and destroys Hamas completely. This is what every country in the world should do in such a situation. And they don't have to listen to nazi sympathizers like you. Your indifference to the atrocities committed by the Palestinians is amazing.

And no one being slaughtered. The only ones that murdered innocent people are your friends the Palestinian. Civilian casualties are part of the war. By your logic, Nazi Germany should not have been conquered by allies.

If they don't want to be harmed to begin with, lets start with release the hostages - among them young women and children.


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Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html


This is the problem with you fanatics on both sides.

No babies were beheaded and the claims of rape are debatable.

Some of us are in the middle looking for a real solution for both Israel and Palestine.

All we ask is that both sides be heard. You and the Hollywood establishment don't want that.

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As I said, you not different than Holocaust deniers. Now you said there wasn't not rape:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/graphic-report-details-new-evidence-of-rape-sexual-violence-during-october-7-rampage/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiP2TwMm0AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AImEMO09dsY

And about the beheaded:

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/23-year-old-shani-louk-beheaded-by-hamas-after-supernova-music-festival-israel-announces-196732997558

https://themedialine.org/headlines/hamas-video-shows-militants-beheading-israelis-in-october-7-attack/

Here some of the photos of the people they burned alive from all ages:
https://shorturl.at/epsJ6
https://shorturl.at/gkrw0

The massacra in nova:
https://youtu.be/Y_1ZtEqnxkY?t=2438

and you call yourself "moderate".
You really disgusting person.
As I said, you support violence, deny the holocaust, and play the character of a peace seeker.

It's really a downfall of MovieChat giving a platform to people like you who support and denied violence and rape.

I am a proud Zionist
proud Jew
A proud Israeli
And an IDF reserve soldier who during his service killed quite a few terrorists.

You can fuck yourself.

You and other antisemitic here now in my ignore list.

P.S. Alice in chains suck

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Oh, so you're one of those who thinks god issues land deeds which allows white Europeans to steal land.

You said babies were beheaded. That is not true and your link does not show that.

Many of the rape claims have been refuted.

Smoke and Mirrors: How Israeli Agitprop Lies Become Fact

https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/03/15/smoke-mirrors-how-israeli-agitprop-lies-become-fact/


Haha. I see what you pigs define as "terrorists" - 30,000 civilians in Gaza including children. You killed civilians and children?

You're a religious zealot and a baby killer.

You go fuck yourself. I would never kill anyone, not even you.

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After reading all of that and seeing the images I have just one question.

How do you put someone on ignore here since you claim to have an, "ignore list?"

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I support you.

As Yahweh said to Abraham:

Genesis 12:3

”I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who treat you with contempt.”

In Verse 7:

He said to Abraham ”I will give this land to your descendants.”

I am a Messianic Christian who is unashamedly Pro-Israel!

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And the commander of Hamas said Israel is only the first target that will be under their law, then the world would be next.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/israel-1st-target-entire-world-to-be-under-hamas-law-commander-in-old-viral-video-on-x-101697087500715-amp.html

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Michael Rappaport caught in a motel hallway discussing how much he will be paid for his vocal activism - https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/status/1769260580442087703

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Looks more real than those Kate Middleton pictures floating around.

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That's true, lol. And because they can't fool people with Photoshopped images, they put out a fake vid with some vague Kate lookalike and claimed it was just filmed (ignoring the Christmas decorations on the huts).

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I figure that's his new mistress ( :

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The stores must be running out of tin foil.

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True. I like to roll it up in a ball and throw it at the heads of people who believe that a photo of the back of someone's head in a car automatically makes it Kate Middleton and not an image of the back of someone's head provided by the people that just lied to you about the last picture that was faked.

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Or, let's be honest, to use it to make some crack cocaine in order to conjure up another fantastical conspiracy theory together with Megs about how Kate must be dead and has a couple of lookalikes running around to keep up the charade that she's still alive.

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I prefer to deal with facts.

The fact is that they portrayed a photoshopped image as a genuine thing, then put out a TEXT claiming to be from Kate saying it was her, then showed another doctored image of the back of someone's head and claimed that's also Kate and a genuine image. Then showed a video which is clearly not taken at the time they claimed, of someone they claim to be Kate sauntering away without a care in the world whilst also claiming she is recovering from abdominal surgery (and I had an abdominal surgery myself some years ago and I can tell you I was NOT able to walk for months without being in great pain) and also looks nothing like her when zoomed in.

What they haven't done is to produce Kate herself, in person, saying she is fine. Until then, I will continue to poke holes in their stories instead of believing proven liars.

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You seem to be making a lot of assumptions instead of dealing with facts.

The family photo was clearly edited, like so many celebrity photos. I think that was much ado about nothing. It's actually very understandable that Kate would not be up to taking pictures, but they gave in to trolls demanding a sign of life.

"then showed another doctored image of the back of someone's head and claimed that's also Kate and a genuine image."

Sorry, what exactly was the fact that proved it was not a genuine image?

"Then showed a video which is clearly not taken at the time they claimed"

Get with the program, Oprah. There were already articles that showed the "Christmas decorations" (the wooden huts with lights) were still up. You've got something that proves otherwise? The pictures are blurry, but in the video it's obvious it's Kate, just skinnier and without make-up.

"and I had an abdominal surgery myself some years ago "
Yes, everybody in the world has the same experience as you, of course. We don't even know what kind of abdominal surgery it was, for goodness sake.

"What they haven't done is to produce Kate herself, in person, saying she is fine."

And why should they? They said she would appear publicly again around Easter. Why can't people accept this? That's the real problem, not Kate not wanting to give in to ridiculous demands.

"Until then, I will continue to poke holes in their stories instead of believing proven liars."

Yes, have fun making up more conspiracy theories based on false assumptions just because an ill woman won't share any private medical details with you.

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Sigh. Do you know the difference between evidence and proof? Surprisingly many people cannot differentiate between the two but they mean entirely different things.

You have been presented with evidence, not proof.

They claimed it was a photograph. It was not. They then claimed Kate edited it - no proof of that other than a text saying so which could have been written by anybody which means it is evidence.

There's also evidence that they were all wearing the same clothing as an event they attended in November only different colours (https://www.tiktok.com/@allynaston/video/7344921409816251678)

They also refuse to release the original image which is suss in itself. After all, what is there to hide if was a genuine photo she edited?

They claim she is still too ill and recovering and then show she is outside almost skipping along looking all fit & healthy after abdominal surgery, (which I know first-hand is not possible). So which is it? Too ill or not too ill? Not too ill to make a statement?

If I show you the back of someone's head and say it is me, is it me? You have no way to know so that image is up for discussion as evidence and not proof. If you look at the the brickwork inside and outside the car it does not match so again, that is suss and looks edited.

British taxpayers deserve to know if she is ok because after all, they pay for their upkeep and people at large around the world are concerned as to whether she is ok or not, which is reasonable.

Nobody is asking for her personal medical details but she could end all speculation easily with a short vid addressing people's concerns saying yes I am ok so no need to worry or make memes and jokes and speculation which is becoming highly damaging to TRF anymore. And yes people heal at different rates but abdominal surgeries are notoriously painful.

They've also changed the date of when she will appear in public so it's not going to be Easter now. Hmmm.

She may be ok but what if she isn't?

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Really, you're sighing at ME, when you're analizing every single detail of a couple of pictures because you don't want to believe what a woman you don't even know claims about her health?

"You have been presented with evidence, not proof."

No, not at all. No one has provided any kind of evidence that Kate didn't edit the photo, that she's not the person in the other picture or in the video. People were wrong about the Christmas decorations, I'm not gonna trust them on supposed brickwork.

She provided no proof she edited the picture, but why the hell should she? Why does it even matter? You can choose to not take her word for it, but in no way is that "evidence". There's also a difference between not automatically believing anything someone says and assuming the opposite of what they say.
"Nobody is asking for her personal medical details"

Well, that's not true, seeing how a hospital worker tried to access her medical file without authorization.

What exactly do you people think you're exposing here? A cover-up that Kate is dead or dying? You yourself said it takes time to recover from abdominal surgery. I don't see how speculation can go beyond a woman who doesn't feel well or comfortable enough to appear in public and the palace releasing an badly edited picture (which they've done before with Elizabeth) to appease the internet trolls.

They said she was doing okay and that she would reappear around Easter, so no reason to go all mental until then.

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Where did I say that she is dead or dying here? I'm just asking questions over obviously questionable actions with unsatisfactory answers and I'm not the only one and if even Piers Morgan is asking questions and saying it's a bad look for the royals that they are doing more harm than good and that William and Kate need to directly address the issue then you know something is a bit off more than they are saying (and what does he know, given his contacts, that he isn't saying?).

If she still doesn't appear when 'they said' she would, will you still think there's nothing wrong?

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The only questionable action was responding to the internet trolls. But then again, why shouldn't they have posted a picture of Kate and the children for Mother's Day? It's the trolls that turn everything into something suspicious.

If she's not dead or dying, then she's simply recuperating from an operation you even admit is invasive.

Piers Morgan is always demanding answers, it's his job to be annoying like that.

I think it would've been fair to patiently wait until Easter and make inquiries about her health if she didn't appear in public. But now, I wouldn't blame her if she wants to stay hidden forever.

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Ever asked yourself why a perfectly normal family photo would even need to be photoshopped in the places that it was?

Piers Morgan always supports the Royals so for him to now say let's back up and say this is not normal or right says something.

Why would it be fair when they lied already and have now put off the Easter date?

Also, did TMZ & The Sun get conned with that video as the person they claimed took it & paid a few thousand for says he didn't take it?

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"perfectly normal family"

Uh, hello. They're not a normal family. They're celebrities. Not only do celebrities constantly edit their photos, the picture was a response to trolls who kept demanding that Kate show her face.

Piers Morgan is always trying to sensationalize things and getting upset whenever people won't share information with him. But even he said it was Kate in the video.

"Why would it be fair when they lied already and have now put off the Easter date?"

Logic fail right there. Yes, it would've been totally fair to just wait until Easter for her to recuperate, but instead people went insane with all the conspiracy theories.

"Also, did TMZ & The Sun get conned with that video as the person they claimed took it & paid a few thousand for says he didn't take it?"

No idea what them being conned has to do with it, but interesting you choose to believe this complete stranger, but not Kate...

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Did I say I believed him or did I present EVIDENCE that their claim was not true?

Again, you seem to mistake what I believe with what I can prove with alternate THEORIES that I present. That he lives next to Windsor and speaks or is Portuguese is maybe a coincidence or more evidence of a fake story.

Here I will present EVIDENCE that their claim about the 'person' Nelson Silva (pictured here https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/DD-kate-splash_COMBO.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1080&h=1080&crop=1 ) may not be real via a website which claims it can detect AI generated photos and says there is a 97.52% chance that the image is AI generated. https://isitai.com/ai-image-detector/

Would I trust The Sun to tell the truth? Hahahahahahaha.

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If you admit that he's not necessarily believable, then why bring it up and act like that him denying he took he picture means something? Maybe he's the one conning all of us now.

"Here I will present EVIDENCE that their claim about the 'person' Nelson Silva may not be real via a website which claims it can detect AI generated photos and says there is a 97.52% chance that the image is AI generated."

I actually think it's quite sad that you and other people go look for "evidence" like this because you refuse to believe the official story. Well, not just that, your intention is to disprove it. God knows why.

Anyway, that site does nothing when I click on the link. But I thought the issue was that he denied making the video, not that he didn't exist? So which is it? And why is it evidence of some kind of cover up? Maybe the real creator wanted to stay anonymous. Or maybe Kate and Will are behind the vid themselves. Again, this is no evidence that anything more is going on than a woman needing a normal amount of time to recover after surgery.

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I think you misunderstood. 'I' don't claim they are the same person. The media claimed someone with the same name, around the same age, living in the Windsor area and with a Portuguese connection took the image. I point out that a person answering that description on LinkedIn says it was not him while the image the media presents 'appears' to be AI generated.

Many years ago, I was once accused by someone of something which was not true after reporting to my bosses finding some creepy documents he had written about me and my daily routines etc on my (shared) work computer. He claimed I wrote them. I eventually managed to prove he was a liar with dogged determination and a program called xtree gold and that I could not have possibly have done what he accused me of because 1. I was never in the building during the times when the documents were saved and had witnesses to say I was always in the cafe for lunch and 2., the printer listed as being used to print off the docs did not exist in the building but was tied to his work documents as being his home printer. That set me off on a lifelong journey to prove what is true and to not believe what someone claims and what others at the time are willing to believe. I've become a lifelong sceptic of many claims but also love to theorise on what may or may not be. I like to investigate stuff. It's not weird or sad. It's healthy to be sceptical rather than blindly believing everything you are told. Especially so when you are being lied to (or about). What's sad is people who continue to believe the people who keep lying to you and every time they say 'trust me bro' you believe that too.

If the real creator of the vid wanted to remain anon then they could have said so. They would have been paid either way.

Which link doesn't work for you?

And you didn't answer my question about if she doesn't appear in public at Easter, will you start to have doubts about her wellbeing too?

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It's one thing to be sceptical and not blindly believe what someone tells you or even to NOT believe what Kate or the palace say. But that's where it should end. Because, yes, it's quite sad, in a situation where a woman you even admit needs quite some time to recover, to analyze every little detail like brickwork and clothing in order to find any kind of fault just because you feel like something's off and demand this woman shows her face. It's also completely unnecessary.

"And you didn't answer my question about if she doesn't appear in public at Easter, will you start to have doubts about her wellbeing too?"

No, you asked if it was fair to run with conspiracy theories after they "lied" and postponed the Easter date. I think it's fair to, like me, simply accept she needs a few months to recuperate and isn't ready yet to share any specifics about her health issues. The Easter date was given to appease the trolls. If she doesn't appear publicly around that time, I'll probably be a bit concerned, but I know that you can't always predict such things.

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By the way, the man who TMZ & the MSM claimed took the footage has publicly stated on LinkedIn that he did not - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nelson-silva-7003391a7_weirdest-disclaimer-ive-ever-had-to-make-activity-7175884982836436992-B4Tf?trk=public_profile

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Apparently even TMZ are now having some doubts about the authenticity of the Kate and maybe William too in the video - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OuSgiq3nVmc?feature=share

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There's a politics board BKB, this would do brisk business there.

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You're the only one complaining about it not being on a Politics board, not even the MOD who responded complained

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And it's such a feeble complaint! The guy has always been a whiner and has consistently tried to come across like he runs this board, since the day he arrived.

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False, more of your nonsense DB.

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That wasn't a complaint but this tread IS inherently political. It was a reminder of the site rules.

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Every civilian death in Gaza is tragic. But Israel is not targeting civilians.

I stopped reading there. The fact that Israel is killing so many civilians is the main reason why it is getting so much criticism. We have been seeing the proof of it every day for the last couple of months. But somehow some people (like Rapaport and Messing) still seem to be capable to deny it which is just really beyond me.

edit: I thought this was the "non-political" board of moviechat.org btw.

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Happy Birthday, Michael Rapaport, age 54 today March 20, 2024........................................

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