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Why are so many female soccer players lesbians?


Answer: because sport allows a space for lesbians to spend time with other girls to the exclusion of men, and also gives them the chance to see other girls undress in the locker rooms.

Some of these lesbians also get really good at soccer in the interim.

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Fascinating.

I don't follow women's soccer at all, but the framing of your question, in that it presupposes that lesbians are over represented in women's soccer, sparked my curiosity and so I did some googling.

I found this article which does indeed indicate they are over represented.

https://www.ucfb.ac.uk/news/ucfb-news-hub/in-focus-why-are-gay-women-over-represented-in-football/

The article suggests one reason why is "Women’s football clubs have forever harboured an atmosphere of inclusivity and acceptance." -

I mean, technically speaking, undressing in the locker room would fall within the parameters of an "atmosphere of inclusivity" so I do think you're onto something there lol.

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Yes, there's a disproportionate number of lesbians in women's sports, even physically undemanding sports like golf.

I don't think there's a "why", it just *is*.

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That doesn't make sense. You'd think most women's sports would have a variety of women in them, not just lesbians exclusively.

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Because war, is a male thing. Make no mistake, football is the way we legalize tribal fighting with each other

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Because of you

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Your reasoning could also be applied to men. Why aren't there more gay male soccer players?

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It's suspected that there are, but coming out is not as accepted amongst males. Although "footballer with a model wife" is a trope.

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I don't mean coming out, I just mean in general. His reasoning of excluding men from the locker room—but in this case women—and seeing other men undress in the locker room could be applied to male players.

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I see. Maybe there's bigger competition, and if a male player is in the locker room only to watch teammates undress, he's gonna drop out pretty soon. You actually have to be very good to stay in the team.

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WTF?...SO YOU DON'T ...ACTUALLY...HAVE TO BE VERY GOOD TO STAY ON THE WOMEN'S TEAM?

LAME...BRO...VERY LAME.🙄

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You don't. There's less competition for the positions (simply because of the number of women who aim to be a professional footballer). It's not a gender thing, it's math.

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YIKES.

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The Premier & Bund are just riddled with fairies. Don't get me started on the Dutch.

Here's a 'top' :

https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/217000/936x622/1634217.jpg

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Wayne Rooney treats his teammates as if they were Mrs. Rooney.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLx44ubXIAU_diX.jpg

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I can't speak for the rest of the world (although the situation is definitely similar across the European leagues), but here in England there's still a terrible fear of coming out.

It's partly because Justin Fashanu came out and had an ugly old time of it as a result. But that was nearly thirty-five years ago now. Things have moved on considerably. Attitudes have changed. But players who do come out still tend to do so after they've retired.

Oh, and I remember the dog's abuse Graeme Le Saux used to get because he read the Guardian, collected antiques and could form full sentences, which in 1990s football culture meant he must be gay.

The word from the dressing rooms is that players are very often out among their colleagues and friends nowadays, but there's still a feeling -- possibly in part due to the Fashanu and Le Saux thing -- that 'the fans' won't accept it. I think that's largely nonsense in the UK in 2023. Most fans would be the same as most players -- they couldn't care less -- and that vocal minority who'd choose to make up homophobic chants would be removed from stadiums anyway.

But obviously it's still just more culturally acceptable to be gay in women's sports.

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I agree with you, but we don't know which players are gay. Ticketsplease brought up how women could see other women undress in the change room as if dudes can't do that with other dudes.

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Ticketsplease is probably enjoying the idea of a bunch of naked women football players sharing a foamy bath and dousing each other in champagne as they take turns wearing a trophy on their heads...

... I've forgotten the point I was going to make.

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No! He’d be repulsed - however, substitute guys…..

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FORGOT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.🫤

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Well, there's also the fear that if a player comes out, they won't be offered the same kind of moneymaking and/or sponsorship deals as someone who stays in the closet.

Some athletes make a lot of money from endorsing shoes or beer or whatever, and raise your hand if you think a beer company is going to offer a gay athlete the same big-money endorsement deal as a straight athlete.

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Yes. You're absolutely right. Sponsorships, image rights, &c, are a major concern for modern athletes. But all of that is also ultimately blamed on the fans' alleged lack of acceptance. Which, as I say, I don't think is especially true of English football fans (in the main) in 2023. I think people involved in the game like to pretend they're ahead of the fans on these issues. I'm not at all sure that's true.

But with the history of it and those current financial concerns, I can perfectly understand gay elite footballers not wanting to stick their heads above the parapet. Instead, the LGBTQ+ community gets solid allies like Jordan Henderson who pisses off to Saudi Arabia when someone waves a big pile of cash in his face. That's modern football for ya.

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It's like Hollywood, where most actors are still firmly in the closet, especially most actors who think they have a shot at the A-list.

They stay in the closet because they know they won't be offered A-list roles if they come out. Is that because the industry is homophobic, or the fans are homophobic? Well, not exactly, it's because the executives who approve the big money-casting decisions may not be homophobic themselves, but they assume that enough audience members are homophobic that they don't offer big-money roles to anyone who's out. So the end result is a homophobic industry that openly discriminates with job offers, because everyone assumes everyone else is homophobic. It's probably the same, when it comes to hiring jocks for beer commercials.

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As a lifelong football fan, I absolutely don’t care about sexuality, religion or race, just as long as they can get it in the back of the net.

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Exactly. And I think the overwhelming majority of football fans feel the same way nowadays. We don't care about any of those things; it really is a meritocracy -- be good at football or we'll call you a useless, overpaid plum. Nothing else matters.

Blaming 'the fans' for these things is lazy and patronising, as far as I'm concerned. All clubs have their idiots. But most people are OK on these things.

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Men are more likely to enjoy sports for the competitive nature and releasing frustration.

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🙄

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maybe lesbians just like sport more than non gay women.

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please we watch men playing with men all the time

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