Some of these directors have done some good movies in between their bad streak, but overall their more recent films haven't been up to par with what they've done previously.
Cameron Crowe
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Liked:
Jerry Maguire (1996)
Almost Famous (2000)
Vanilla Sky (2001)
Didn't like:
Elizabethtown (2005)
We Bought a Zoo (2011)
Aloha (2015)
I am really beginning to think that Pulp Fiction was lightning in a bottle. That movie was perfect and such a game changer, but all of his other movies (well, out of the ones I've seen so far) are so heavily flawed in one way or the other to keep me from recommending them to anyone, in spite of either liking them or appreciating his skill as a director.
I think Reservoir Dogs is his best. Pulp Fiction follows closely and then Jackie Brown. He took a nosedive with Kill Bill and he seems to be falling deeper with every new movie. My conclusion is that he just can't make a good movie based on his own original material and without any restraints.
I find the alternate history stuff interesting and different. It's laughable to think he does it simply because he's "too lazy to do the research." No, he does it because movies are fictional and its intriguing to him to surprise audiences with his own alternate take of historical events.
Every single time though? And the dialogue doesn't change between time periods. People talk the same in Pulp Fiction as they do in Inglourious Basterds. Bruce Lee's family criticized Tarantino for changing history.
In my opinion Pulp Fiction was his best and my personal favorite, against popular opinion, is Death Proof. I thought he slid down hill with Inglorious Basterds, Django and hit rock bottom with Hateful Eight. I was almost ready to throw in the towel but I loved Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I love all the Tarantinoisms (nods to older films) and I find them frequently watching older genre movies.
I can't say that I'm no longer a fan of Quentin Tarantino. I'm just no longer a fangirl. The bloom has come off the rose for me with him. I finally saw both Kill Bills recently (after having seen the first one upon release years ago and never looking back). These movies are ASS. Junk. Complete and total shit. Of the movies I have seen post Kill Bill (Inglorious Basterds, OUATIH), it seems as if he's become a self-conscious parody of himself, like he's too afraid of ruining his public image. And now, I often wonder how many flashes of genius I've seen in his movies (the tavern scene in IG) wasn't borrowed from somebody else.
Ditto Martin Scorsese. Looking back, I noticed that there's always one really egregious flaw in his movie that would be rightfully called out as amateurish if it had been committed by any other director. For example: 1) Not ending Taxi Driver at the couch scene when Bickle does the gun gesture. 2) Having Henry Hill's wife narrate for part of the movie when this was his story to tell (and then, to make matters worse, all she does is describe what we can plainly see is happening in the scene).
Of the movies I have seen post Kill Bill (Inglorious Basterds, OUATIH), it seems as if he's become a self-conscious parody of himself, like he's too afraid of ruining his public image.
I felt this way about the scene in Django Unchained where they're wearing pillow cases for their KKK outfits. The dialogue was so bad, it seemed like a Tarantino fan was trying to be like Tarantino
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I didn't see DU, but yes. When you say "Tarantino fan trying to be like Tarantino", you frigging nailed what I'm talking about. It's like his movies are fanboy versions of his movies.
For example, in OUATIA, there's this really obnoxious scene where we see Margot Robbie propping up her feet on the theater seat, and he uses a wide angle lens so the feet are really in your face. It doesn't come across as the foot fetish that he became famous for but him self-consciously going, "Everyone thinks I have a foot fetish, so I have to have really grotesque, in-your-face shots of feet in my movies so people know it's a Quentin Tarantino film. It wouldn't be authentic otherwise."
So even during your "fangirl" days, and before your vigorous defense of QT in a debate with me a few months ago, you had not even seen Kill Bill 2, Django or The H8?? 3 of 8 missing for the QT aficionado? And you defended his use of violence as having some deeper thematic meaning in order to teach the viewer something? It seems like you've crab-walked to the other side in no time, huh? Gee, I wonder why. Maybe all your discussion of his films "to hell for years" didn't really mean much after all. The wise old owl, atomicgirl, as full of it as ever.
phantom thread is my favourite pta.
i support that man's campaign against noisy breakfasts!
but i'll happily acknowledge that i have an outlier opinion here. there will be blood is actually my least favourite pta. i know, i know...there's clearly something terribly wrong with me.
not that anyone asked for it, but my pta ranking goes:
phantom thread
punch drunk love
boogie nights
the master
inherent vice
magnolia
there will be blood
i still haven't seen hard eight. i like that there's an unwatched pta film waiting in the universe for me to see someday.
oh, absolutely, me too. i should have said above that i genuinely like every single one of those films, and the top 4 are in the mix of my favourite movies period.
Maybe David Fincher? Still really like his movies but I don't really hold them in as high of regard as before. And he also hasn't made anything of note since Gone Girl.
But lets see how that WWZ sequel pans out, think it might be pretty damn good, or at least really fun.
So much edginess in this thread. I don't think I can handle it.
I was going to say that Cameron Crowe's career has taken a bad turn after a strong start, but how can I compete with comments like Tarantino can't write dialogue anymore or Scorsese makes amateurish mistakes that a film student wouldn't.
I'm going to leave before I get a serious cut from all that edginess.
It has nothing to do with trying to be edgy. I wish I could love Tarantino's newer movies, I gave them a fair shot. But he's just doing the same thing over and over again.
cameron crowe is definitely one of the bigger head-scratchers of recent years. it's almost bizarre how his films seem to have fallen off of a cliff - though, full disclosure, i haven't seen most of the post-almost famous stuff. i just know them by reputation. maybe i'd actually like them...but the subject matter he's gone into with them interests me not one little bit.
one director that i absolutely loved out of the gate, but who i've definitely cooled on is ben wheatley. i liked his first film (down terrace), and think his second, kill list, was truly great - one of my very favourite films of any era, any style.
and if he didn't make anything i liked as much, he kept making interesting things for a few years - a serial killer comedy (sightseers, pretty good), a mushroom trip psychedelic period piece (a field in england - too weird to be completely lovable, but i still dug it).
but then he did a jg ballard adaptation - high rise. ought to have been right up my alley, but instead, i found it to be numbingly boring.
and then he did a gangster crime shoot-out action film (free fire) and i found that just as dull, and disappointingly normal in most ways as i recall. weirdness & eccentricity all tamped down.
he has a 2018 film that i haven't seen at all, and doesn't seem to have been distributed outside of the uk...and weirdly enough, he is apparently directing a tomb raider film, which makes absolutely no sense to me, and interests me not at all.
please come back and be weird, ben wheatley - you're my only hope...
Camerone Crowe is a great writer and a smart guy, but his films of late have a really sappy way about them. His love stories just don't work. I'd like to see him go back to something like Vanilla Sky.
I've never been a fan of Ben Wheatley. I've seen Kill List, Sightseers and I was actually pumped for Free Fire, but was disappointed.