I know some of you are gleeful at this news and probably wish it in their own home country.
Didn't he also ban journalism and opposition that isn't pro-him? I don't see why he would need to please the traditionalists for the upcoming 2024 election when he can just rig it.
Holy crap! Moscow police are now raiding gay bars...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-raid-moscow-gay-bars-after-a-supreme-court-ruling-labeled-lgbtq-movement-extremist/ar-AA1kSCcD?OCID=ansmsnnews11
This should serve as a reminder to western LGBT people about just how privileged you actually are. While you guys are pretending that you are still oppressed over here, and issuing travel warnings for places like Florida, LGBT people around the world still have real problems.
shareThat is specious reasoning. There is literally no situation imaginable where you can't just tell someone to be grateful because somebody else somewhere probably has it even worse. That certainly isn't a reason not to want things to be better.
shareIssueing a "travel warning" about Florida was absurd though, shit like that should get push back.
Contrasting that with real discrimination or oppression is a valid point.
I'm not saying people shouldn't want things to be better, but it's pretty wide gap between that, and claiming victimhood and oppression, or comparing everything that doesn't go your way to the Nazi's. You lessen the effects of real oppression when you do that. Go and watch some Russian street interviews, most of them will not talk about hot button issues on camera, and they will quickly walk away because they don't have freedom of speech, and their government can go after them. You also don't see the LGBT community going there to protest either, nor would I recommend it, unless you want to do hard time in a Russian Prison.
The point is, issue travel warnings for places like Russia, or the African nations that have made it illegal to be gay. Those places are unsafe. But warning about places like Florida, in comparison just looks like a bunch of spoiled kids having temper tantrums.
People in America are the most privileged people on earth. Of all colors and pronounce. Yet they whiln the most and pretend to be oppressed the most. Its hilarious, disgusting and sad. Because all of it is performative.
They pretend they care about women, gays, people of color? poor people. Yes they only care about them in USA. Outside? They can be stoned, jailed, not allowed on street - nobody cares. But they will scream in horror that Jennifer Lawrence will get few millions less then her male costar. "Oppressed woman!!!" will the scream.
Did any celebrity comment on that russian law? No? No one cares? And dont forget how whole Hollywood was frequently visiting russia with concerts and movie promotion and still visit Saudi Arabia. Despite all their anti-gays laws.
>Did any celebrity comment on that russian law? No? No one cares? And dont forget how whole Hollywood was frequently visiting russia with concerts and movie promotion and still visit Saudi Arabia. Despite all their anti-gays laws.
To be fair, people in the USA can actually impact American law and social issues.
You can't do anything about Saudi Arabia and Russia from the USA.
Well the LGBTQ movement is 'extremism' and like a frog in a saucer of water where the temperature is gradually raised, it doesn't realize it's being boiled alive. America and the west have had the temperature gradually raised on them for the past 30 years, normalizing homosexuality to the point that they can now marry and adopt children or use surrogates and somehow that is "normal" for a child to have two mothers or two fathers and be denied one of their actual biological parents. Some places even allow this lie on birth certificates where homosexuals can put down both their names as though they are both the child's biological parent.
Now the LGBTQ extremism has seen men pretend to be women and even have a "right" to compete in female sports and win their medals.
Russia is justified in saying that it is an extremist movement because where America has ended up is absolutely bonkers.
>normalizing homosexuality to the point that they can now marry and adopt children or use surrogates and somehow that is "normal" for a child to have two mothers or two fathers and be denied one of their actual biological parents. Some places even allow this lie on birth certificates where homosexuals can put down both their names as though they are both the child's biological parent.
What do you mean "denied"? In those situations, it's like adoption.
As for the rest - who gives a fuck?
So what then, you think LGBT people should be forced out of public life entirely?
I guess Russia and China, as per some later comments, have both looked carefully at the example of the USA, where LGBTQ activism has free reign. They've seen the outcome and decided not to go down that path.
share"...the USA, where LGBTQ activism has free reign."
Another way of saying this:
"...the USA, where LGBTQ are free."
That's the difference between us and them.
So what, you think all LGBT people should be forced by the state outside of public life?
shareI think they should just privately live their own lives and not "promote awareness" to the community at large through certain events, publications, etc., especially those aimed at children. (eg: Drag Queen Storytime) Also, as for the Trans community, they should not demand that they be officially recognized as genuine members of a sex they have merely recieved medical procedures in order to emulate.
shareWhat does that mean?
If a TV show depicts a gay person, is that an example of them not "privately living their own lives"? Is a gay romance book being found in a book store an example of that?
Those could be OK as long as they are not marketed to or easily accessible to children.
shareSo you clearly disagree with the Russian law then.
And not sure what the meaningful difference is between a kid/family show depicting a married heterosexual couple, vs. another kid/family show depicting a homosexual couple.
I don't think the Russian law would work in the USA.
As per the difference in the two shows, I don't think the gay lifestyle should be presented as "normal". I'm not saying hush it up completely, but I don't think it should be presented as a 100% wholesome and normal alternative to heterosexuality. Especially not in shows aimed at impressionable children.
>As per the difference in the two shows, I don't think the gay lifestyle should be presented as "normal". I'm not saying hush it up completely, but I don't think it should be presented as a 100% wholesome and normal alternative to heterosexuality.
And what does this mean in legal terms, exactly?
Also you say "alternative" as if it's proposed in that way. It's weird phrasing. It's just that homosexual people exist, and have relationships - just like straight people.