The Emperor is dead. Long live the Emperor! - Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (2019) Discussion

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I love The Emperor (my favourite SW character along with Lando and Dr Evazan), but I'm not sure how I feel about his return. I felt his fate in ROTJ was pretty divisive.

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[–] janelsenor (2042) 5 years ago

I love how a single laugh has everyone assuming his return.

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[–] millsey72 (9689) 5 years ago

The guy who played Palpatine is credited in the next film as him

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[–] janelsenor (2042) 5 years ago

That does not mean Palps is going to be resurrected in this movie.

Mark Hamill is credited too. He'll still be dead.

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[–] Otter (24464) 5 years ago

Hamill is widely expected to appear as a Force Ghost. If the Jedi can become Force Ghosts glowing with blue light, why can't Sith become Dark Force Ghosts as well? They're both using different aspects of the same power!

And I adore that vicious old queen.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

You mean decisive?

Maul got worse treatment, cut in half before falling, but he lived on. Palpatine could easily survive just a simple fall!

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[–] Threadkiller (2959) 5 years ago

The Emperor did also kind of explode into a beam of force energy. Never mind that the death star exploded shortly thereafter. I guess maybe he could have have had an escape pod conveniently waiting for him at the bottom of the abyss which he could have used after he rematerialized himself. That certainly wouldn't be terrible writing.

Never mind that it would comepletely undermine Vader/Anakin's sacrifice & destiny to destroy the Sith

Probably better to stick with the clone/sith force ghost idea

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I do mean 'decisive'.

Damn autocorrect.

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[–] mikethemartian (6193) 5 years ago

I just assume that he exists in the afterlife the same as Obi Wan, Vader and Yoda.

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[–] WhereIsRent (1031) 5 years ago

I think he’s been able to cheat death just like he was on about in the opera scene from Revenge of the Sith.

He may have even been Snoke this whole time (would explain the similar dialogue that he had to the Emperor in The Last Jedi)

Heck he could even be a clone. Now if only they could find a way to bring Luke back as well so we can have a Luke v Emperor lightsaber duel.

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[–] TheUltimateHippo (2250) 5 years ago

I love palpatine he is a really cool character but I have a feeling if they bring him back they’ll fuck him up like they did with Han, Leia and especially Luke

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Since the sequels have borrowed elements from the previous sequel novels, I suspect (as others do) that he could have clones.

I am betting my money on Snoke being a failed "rogue" Palpatine clone.

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[–] ProgsReturn (1825) 5 years ago

Let me guess. His physical body is dead but his spirit lives on in his lightsaber, and it's up to a group of hobbits to throw it into the volcano from where it was forged.

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[–] Otter (24464) 5 years ago

You know, worse ideas than that have made it into Development Hell.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Why didnt the eagles just fly Frodo to Mt. Doom? They still owed Gandalf at the start of the trilogy.

Answer I always see is that the eagles cant be near the ring or they will be corrupted by it.

But its wrong... in the Hobbit, the eagles rescue the entire group and fly them to safety. Bilbo has the ring in his pocket when this happens.

Not sure if that made it to the film. I only remember it from the animated Hobbit movie.

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[–] ProgsReturn (1825) 5 years ago

Carrying the hobbits in by eagle will be far too obvious. Sauron would have almost certainly gotten the ring back.
Can't remember what the eagles did in the Hobbit, I'll have to read it again (stuff the film)

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Well the eagles had no trouble with the Ringwraith defenses...

But aside from that, they could have flown the troupe to the edge of Mordor (one does not just fly into Mordor lol) and bypassed the hardest part of the trek.

Besides, your point about Obviousness is moot, as the Eye of Sauron was watching the troupe the whole time and they knew it.

The biggest WTF about LOTR is why Sauron created a ring imbued with so much of his power that destroying it would lead to his undoing.

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[–] ProgsReturn (1825) 5 years ago

I got the impression from Tolkien-related sources that the great eagles generally never interfered with Middle-Earth events. When they were called-on in the stories, it's more to bail-out someone in a tight spot rather than actively advancing the plot.

Eeer... as for the rest you'll have to take it up with the Tolkien fan club.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Yes, the eagles are a ham fisted plot device that Tolkien only used for convenient getaways (three times in the entire series).

As for them interfering, Gandalf didnt cash in the favor they owed him until Two Towers where he got stuck.

If he had cashed it in at the start to bypass the dangerous trek to Mordor, he wouldn't have gotten stuck there in the first place.

Plus, thats not interference to the eagles if they only know that they are transporting, and not told the reason.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

P.s. as you can probably tell, I don't particularly like the LOTR series.

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[–] Bubbathegut (17270) 5 years ago

Good theory and possible. Could Palps be a force ghost you think?

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[–] ProgsReturn (1825) 5 years ago

How would you kill a force ghost? He and Yoda should just slog it out and everyone can just move on.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

It would be funny because they would basically their Emperor 2.0 in snoke failed so badly.

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