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The asian token was far, far worse than Jar Jar

posted 6 years ago by Heisenberg (6460)
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I think I don't need to argue much here, we all agree she was a disgrace in every aspect.
If Jar Jar was in her place, it would have been a better movie, including the romance with the black token.

What makes it even worse is that they recently wrote a great asian character, and not a token, in Rogue One.
I guess they didn't have one for this story, so they forced this horrible token on everybody.
Great job producers, I bet the chinese are super proud of your effort :-P

[–] TheUltimateHippo (2250) 6 years ago

Jar Jar is at least fun to make fun of, Rose was just irritating. The whole speech about how they are going to win the war with the power of love was far more insulting to my intelligence than "uh oh big boomers, mesa in big doodoo dis time"

[–] Nipsey_Russell (1339) 6 years ago

This isa true ☝🏼...

[–] maul (1535) 6 years ago

More cringe with that scene/line that all of Jar Jar combined.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

Her parents are Vietnamese, not Chinese. She doesn't even look Chinese, seriously!

[–] Heisenberg (6460) 6 years ago

Oops, my bad! For a moment I thought her parents were from Stockholm, seriously!
Pretty sure Vietnamese still qualify as "asian".

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Not only that Heisenberg but Vietnam shares a border with the Yunnan and Guangxi province borders of China and so Chinese stock won't be that many generations behind (If any). She looks more from the central Hunan province though but, regardless, she is certainly 'Asian'.

[–] Martoto (4446) 6 years ago

This is why you're the fucking disgrace.

[–] Nate Adams SA23 (900) 6 years ago

I watched this movie again yesterday. It was so awful. Pretty visuals, but it seems to have been written by Jar Jar.

[–] Martoto (4446) 6 years ago

we all agree she was a disgrace in every aspect.

You're the fucking disgrace, pal.

[–] ghostboy (652) 6 years ago

Actually, agree. I don't like Jar Jar Binx, but I don't hate the character, if he had gotten more screen time in Episode 2 and 3 then I would probably hate him, but I can tolerate him in the Phantom Menace, if he was cut out of the movie, I wouldn't complain either, though.

Rose was literally there to appeal to China, or to add diversity to the cast for the sake of it. I wouldn't mind an Asian character in Star Wars, but the Rose character serves no purpose to the overall narrative, she's there for the sake of being there, if you cut her out of the movie entirely, little if anything would change.

[–] Heisenberg (6460) 6 years ago

Yes, Asian characters (not tokens) actually fit very well the narrative of SW.
Like I said in the OP, Rogue One is a fine example of this: Chirrut is f'in awesome!

Chirrut:I am one with the force, the force is with me. (Epic!)

Rose: I am one with the farce, the farce is with all you suckas watching this 2h30min toy commercial.

[–] TheUltimateHippo (2250) 6 years ago

Apparently the idea to make him blind came from Donnie Yen. That’s right, the characters defining characteristic came from the actor. That just goes to show how much thought the writers actually put into this piece of shlt.

[–] Heisenberg (6460) 6 years ago

Wow, I didn't know that...certainly some great input from Yen, he should be credited as a co-writer, I guess Rogue One had a better director/less controlling producer.
I wish the actress playing Rose had that same talent, maybe she could have improved her atrocious storyline.

[–] Ratatosk80 (6) 6 years ago

The whole Canto Bight thing( and thus Rose) could easily have been cut. It actually makes for a better movie. All that time could have been used to show what we as viewers actually care about and are emotionally invested in, Rey, Kylo, Luke and Poe.

[–] TheUltimateHippo (2250) 6 years ago

The whole Canto Bight thing/Rose could also have been cut and it would have had no impact at all on the plot. I swear the characters would have ended up in the exact same place.

[–] Heisenberg (6460) 6 years ago

Yes, your list of characters is precisely what this movie is about, and what it should have focused on, if only it took itself seriously.
Instead, it strides on tokens and merchandising.

[–] bobbynynex (1505) 6 years ago

but it served a purpose of the movie doing well in asian markets. jar jar served no purpose.

[–] TristanReloaded (449) 6 years ago

Yes he did,

- He and his people served a narrative purpose. Rose serves no purpose but causing a plot redundancy and giving us the most absurd love confession/kiss scene of all times while the Resistance is nuked in the background (That's how we gonna win dummy. Not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love...).

- Kids loved Jar Jar and bought Jar Jar dolls. Nobody is buying Rose Tico dolls though.

- He became so hated that he became iconic. He even gave JJ Abrams his nickname.