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Too many female leaders?

posted 6 years ago by maximmm (3090)
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One thing that I thought was odd.

So, we have Rey - she's the new kickass lead who will save the world from certain doom - fair enough. I've seen plenty of female leads in films and some of them are awesome.

Then we have the leader of the Rebellion - Princess Leia who is currently the general in lead.
I'm thinking... ok... she was Luke's sister and all, fine.

Then she gets taken out and we are introduced to the person next in the chain of command - Vice Admiral - and guess what - she too is a woman.

On one hand, I'm glad that this series isn't going the HBO route and turning every 4th character gay, but as is the case with HBO and its kin, the agenda here is way too obvious and clearly overdone.

I'm thinking they should mix things up a bit more - add a dude rebellion leader to the mix. Hell, if they want to be a bit less obvious, add a gay or lesbian as well - I mean, they already have 40 main characters here, another 10 won't make it any more convoluted than it already is - but it would water down the 'only females should be in the lead' concept.

The future of the world is one where men, women are equals and where no gender subjugates another - but if you make it the complete opposite of what it was in the 1920's, it's still going to be a rather dark world.

[–] Bubbathegut (17258) 6 years ago

Don't forget about the girl with the big nose. It went Leia, purple hair then big nose in the chain of command.

[–] jekporkins (1928) 6 years ago

Don't forget about Rose, who 'saved' Finn and told him the meaning of life. This new trilogy is all about girl power.

[–] Bubbathegut (17258) 6 years ago

Porkins!

Its girl power for sure. At least we still have 6 great real Star Wars movies to enjoy.

[–] Master_Lo (309) 6 years ago

Expect more female leads in the next episode. Don't forget Rogue One, where the leader of the commando unit was also a female.

[–] JohnnyUtahx (161) 6 years ago

Yup, As long as SJW Kathleen Kennedy is in charge this will continue to be the trend

[–] Master_Lo (309) 6 years ago

But it was played out better. She was the daughter of Galen Erso (allegedly creator-engineer of Death Star according to the "new canon"), so she had to be sort of involved. And also she had been raised by a known terrorist etc., so it made more sense, that she was a cunning and resourceful brat. And the Rebellion kind of resembled an army, that had male combatants, not che guevara-loving college millennials. Although it was still led by a female politician, Mon Mothma, but that comes from OT. I never really liked her.

[–] Recognizer (386) 6 years ago

Thank God, someone gets it. Also note how all of the leadership of The First Order is conspicuously male.

[–] tom8 (2935) 6 years ago

welcome to Disney...the home of SJW and PC shitheads.
Where feminists run everything and get offended and triggered if you have an opinion different from them.

get used to it my friend , Movies are doomed, especially after Disney has begun to buy other movie companies.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

And yet you get offended and triggered just at the sight of females in power... FICTIONAL females, no less! That's how much of an insecure snowflake you are.

Hilariously pathetic.

[–] Renovatio (2990) 6 years ago

They can't use an "out" gay lead in a big movie as it might not pass the censorship in China...

What these movies really need is proper female villains... Gary Oldman, Michael Douglas, Javier Bardam, Samuel L Jackson, Anthony Hopkins and countless others have played stellar villain roles, defining their films and breaking the "golden boy" image of male stars... And villians are cool, in Wall Street Douglas was so good that people misunderstood the movie!

There are very few noteworthy female villains (Glenn Close is the exception that proves the rule)... This is a huge opportunity for filmmakers to subvert a jaded audience's expectations... To do something actually cool rather than yet another banal girl power character... if anything, it would give these boring characters meaning!

But i doubt they have it in them to do this... it will happen in genre movies first... when a few of thise get successful then these corporate movies might start to copy that idea...

[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Kathy Bates

[–] Renovatio (2990) 6 years ago

Exactly! iconic role!

[–] Volley (3379) 6 years ago

Yep, there is definitely an agenda and one that I've taken full note of since the Disney acquisition of Star Wars. It's despicable and it's disturbing. All of this traces back to Kathleen Kennedy. I have no idea what George was thinking by selling Lucasfilm to her in charge.

White males = The First Order

Every other race, ethnicity, culture, homosexuals, and gender/sex = Resistance/Rebellion/New Republic

Just what are they trying to tell us?

Also, Laura Dern felt out of place in this movie. Don't get me wrong, I loved Dr. Ellie Sattler in Jurassic Park, in Crichton's novelization as well, but here and the purple hair just feels overly forced.

[–] Hoosthere (36) 6 years ago

Saw this in the TFA too

[–] Master_Lo (309) 6 years ago

Purple hair means feminism. It's a coded message to fat cows with librarians glasses all across the USA.

[–] johnmiller (3406) 6 years ago

There is certainly that debate about an "agenda" of putting as many females in "Star Wars" as possible. But, man, Laura Dern's character was a mess! She looked like a refugee from "The Hunger Games." She looked gaunt in that outfit. And, she was indecisive. I can't blame Poe for "going rogue" and taking over.

At least her taking the cruiser and putting it at light speed through the main First Order ship made for a great hard sci-fi moment.

[–] Master_Lo (309) 6 years ago

Now the muslim-loving Hollywood is advertising suicide attacks. I mean, their allies do it a lot, so it kinda gets under the skin over time.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Haha yeah and the blokes kept failing or kept getting told off.