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What an uninspired piece of shit


When did Ridley start phoning it in?

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Yeah it was pretty bad, and I guess I’d say around 2008-2010.

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Yeah, I think you're right. American Gangster was his last good movie and even that had its flaws.

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A disappointing film. For years, fans thought only Ridley Scott could fix the Alien franchise. I think he could have if he had been more daring and moved the story along instead of these plodding films that go nowhere. Poor casting, too.

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With the Alien franchise we needed a big shake up but my god Prometheus and Alien Covenant shows we can never ever get out of the original Alien, that's the template we can't change the template, look how done to death it is.

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He's old and gave us some great movies. I choose to just not watch the bad ones more than once.

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i wanted to love this movie............
but it stinks.

cool atmospheric shots spark some interest. that's about it.

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Prometheus was a decent movie. I enjoyed it.

Alien Covenant,on the other hand, sucked.

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This is how I feel. I really liked Prometheus quite a bit. But it seemed like Ridley was stung by criticism of that (where's the xenomorph?), so he gave a lazy, by the numbers sequel with plenty of "aliens".

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Better then Prometheus. I will give it 4/10, haha. I liked the visual style, the costumes, the gore, the more "industrial" design of the "Covenant" and the machinery, which is a return to the original style, but I miss the retro tech. The characters were less annoying, but still stupid, though the stupidity is on a level you would expect from standard sci-fi fare, which this movie is. I mean, in real life people won't even travel to certain countries without vaccination, let alone dropping on an alien planet just like that, nor they would endanger the life of thousands people just to see how their spouse is doing down there.

The movie is uninspired, as you said. Run-of-the-mill ideas, worn out many years ago. Creation, androids vs humans.. . And they approached them in a juvenile way. It felt like if they needed just some plot, so that the action could movie forward. The cringy Aragorn/David hybrid made no sense. He is revering Byron, Wagner and yet dissing the humans. And even Wayland... I mean he created the company and in the process changed the world. And David is a nobody, playing God no better than humans are.

Too many quotes from previous movies- scenes and ideas. Even from the less popular sequels. We have seen the medieval gothic colony in Alien3 and the genetic engineering/hybridization in Resurrection. Rips off (again) The Thing, ends in a "Outer Limits" fashion with a situation reminiscent of what was going on in "Pandorum", and the cheesy little face huggies...

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There some amateurish mistakes which make me think that post "Prometheus" years of Ridley will be known as "the dementia years". He killed the captain. At first we are like "Oh, this insecure religious prick will ruin it all" and after awhile we are like "Actually he is not a bad guy at all" and then Dementia Ridley just kills him. It could have been an interesting arc and I liked how his wife was supporting him and trying to keep him focused on the mission. Also, you don't kill your only likeable characters just like that.

There are even more basic mistakes. The alien ship was 8 or so kilometers away from the shuttle. The events on the shuttle were happening too fast, considering the time it would take them to return to it to witness the explosion. Another such mistake is the timing of the first alien birth, because we know how it is supposed to happen. Jeez, I thought that film students are taught about these things during their first year at school.

The worst offence, hands down, is that this movie totally fucks up the lore. Maybe I slept over some key moment, but how David developed the eggs? What is the connection with the eggs seen in the original movie? Why in the first case the Alien was born faster than in the second case? How was the second face hugger able to "impregnate" so fast its victim? If that is possible, why in previous movies they will stay attached for so long?

And by the way, the CGI aliens really sucked. Resurrection still has the best aliens.

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It really is a pile of shat.

Just Ridley urinating all over his legacy with this one. He said he regrets making this over Blade Runner 2049 but if this was the effort he would have put into the latter film then I’m glad he didn’t make that as well.

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