Ok both of their childhoods were pretty fucked up but esp Joan.
That dinner conversation about losing their virginity really underlines the extreme differences between them.
I had NO IDEA that Joan Crawford had adopted twin daughters until I watched this episode. I've seen "Mommie Dearest" more than once, and since they are not in that I guess that is why I never knew. At first I thought they were Mammasita's girls. I looked up some information on them. Unfortunately one of them died about a decade ago, and apparently so has Christopher Crawford. I did find a YouTube video of both the twins speaking about their famous mom from a few years ago, and both of them have a completely opposite opinions of that of Christina Crawford. I also found a video of Bette Davis' daughter B.D., and apparently she is 69 and does videos for a religious organization. They showed part of one of the videos, and she was talking smack about how her famous mom was into witchcraft or something like that (I wasn't really paying attention, so it may not be that). I don't know what occurred as the children of famous women, but I felt like the latter daughter I discussed on here was well...I don't know how seriously I can take her.
shareB.D.'s claims are ridiculous. She says that her mother practiced witchcraft, grew claws, growled like a demon, and flew around the room.
B.D. got heavy into the Born-Again Christian movement. So, make of that what you will. :-/
Yeah it just seemed weird to me. I couldn't take it seriously. I don't know what to think of Christina Crawford either. I am split down the middle with her.
shareWhen it comes to BD being "born again," I tend to be skeptical of how religious she really is. I mean, "Honoring your mother" is one of their top ten commandments. She seemed to have missed her Bible lesson that day.
When it comes to Christina, I can be more sympathetic. She really only had one parent and she was abused. There are witnesses to this and she wasn't making it up. Whether she should have written that book is another story. I found it to be very very interesting. And oddly, Joan is NOT a complete monster. People just remember the monstrous parts.
Christina said that they weren't twins at all. She said that Joan had asked the baby broker for twin girls and the broker put together two similar looking babies and they called them adopted twins. When I saw the mini-series used identical twins, that was a total inaccuracy.
One of the twins sued Christina for saying this and the court found in favor of the twins. see article
As far as the twins having different memories, the reason is probably that they had an on-site father and Joan was actually happy with him so she was less inclined to be abusive of the kids.
Yes I see where you are coming from. I watched a YouTube video where both twins were interviewed, and they look nothing alike. I just assumed they were fraternal however. I never read the book "Mommie Dearest," but I have seen the film many times. I don't believe Joan Crawford was a saint either, and parents are sometimes different with one kid than they are with another. B.D. sounded ridiculous to me, but Christina does not.
On a slightly different subject one thing I will say which I appreciate about not only these actresses but others from that error is they didn't give these BS P.R. answers to things like celebrities seem to do nowadays. If they didn't like something or someone they spoke it. I don't know. They definitely did the PR thing back then too; however it seems to me (from the outside looking in) that their responses were more honest than what you hear now.
I'd be interested to hear what other people think.
so you think this show is a documentary?
it has gotten more things wrong than right; time to open your eyes to reality!
I don't think that detail about her childhood molestation is just made up.
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I think that made them who they were. Davis was an independent and sometimes lonely woman, but she was loved so she was never a needy actress making movies to get love from the audience. Obviously, Crawford was grabbing onto any kind of love except the real one but considering what she went through, it's hardly surprising.
A little therapy would have gone a long way and maybe spared her children.