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National Sociaism is much needed in America.


But this parallel universe thing is a joke.

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National socialism needed? Never! Were America a human body national socialism would be the feces the body produced - a poisonous substance good for nothing.

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It would clean out the populace.

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Is that so? Pray tell, what segments did you have in mind?

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National Socialism was pure evil, and almost as much a danger to a free society as communism and leftism ever were. The only reason I don't rate it as as great a danger is that National Socialism was nakedly, disgustingly, wickedly racist -- and therefore obviously identifiable as evil -- while socialism and communism at least maintain the veneer of being about a greater good for everyone, which makes them more appealing, and therefore insidious, and therefore ultimately more dangerous (as Shakespeare said "the devil hath power T' assume a pleasing shape"). Because it's so clumsily obvious in its evil, Nazism is more easily identifiable as the enemy; that artlessness is the only aspect in whiche it is less dangerous than socialsm/communism.

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Add laissez-faire capitalism to that list. Unless you consider plutocracy to be a good system. Political extremes which propose one remedy for every ill, in dogmatic fashion like a religion, are always bad. It's balance and compromise that lead to a stable order. Every problem tends to demand a different solution and if you're wedded to a single approach, there are problems you can only exacerbate and never fix.

Isms in my opinion are not good. - Ferris Bueller

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You don't have/never had laissez-faire capitalism

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No, I wouldn't add laissez-faire capitalism to that list. As JohnnyDoe remarked, we don't have that, and never did. The closest we ever came to totally unregulated, laissez-faire capitalism was during the 19th century, and it was not even in the same universe of bad as communism or nazism. No death camps, no gulags, no secret police, no show trials, no state propaganda ministry, etc. etc. And to make myself clear -- as I am sure I will be accused of advocating for it if I don't -- I am not holding out laissez-faire capitalism as an ideal system. But if I were forced to chose it or socialism/communism or nazism on the other hand... No-brainers don't come any simpler.

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So murdering 100 million people is okay, as long as you're murdering races equally?

Bruh.

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Uh, no, that's not what I wrote at all, and if you think it is... Well, sorry, you have a serious reading comprehension problem. I'll explain it again, and I'll try to use smaller words:

Nazism is evil. It is easily identifiable by most people as evil because it is so nakedly racist and based on hatred of other people's not considered part of the in group. Socialism/Communism maintain the veneer -- i.e. the outward appearance of not being so evil because it is not so nakedly exclusionary to all except a select group of pre-chosen elite, and it at least purports to be about "the greater good." And, you will note, I also said this makes it more insidious, and ultimately more dangerous, because that less nakedly evil outward appearance makes it more appealing to people who don't look past the surface, and therefor that particular evil ideology is easier to spread.

Why is it I have to explain this to you?

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You just say this because Arija Bareikis looks like Eva Braun

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Funny my wife said last night she thought this series might empower crackpots as opposed to being a whew I am glad they lost. It does serve as a warning that evil elements such as the original comment poster are alive and well and we need to be vigilant. What i wonder is why the "clean them out" comment people on this board care so much as to want to go through the hassle to kill people who are different from them. The idea of our Declaration and Constitution was a live and let ethos. Of course as the BCR Bell points out in the hacked NAZI TV scene that the constitution was way ahead of the curve and tolerated slavery and women not voting for a long time. I suppose all big ideas are visions that may take time and struggle to realize. Respecting other peoples rights to do as they please so long as they do not impinge upon your rights (Libertarianisnism) does not mean you have to do what they do or even agree with them. For example, I do not use recreational drugs but I am pro legalization because of the libertarian ethos points I made above.

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No one ever needs socialism, and America certainly doesn't need any more nationalism than it already has.

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