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Alive has just been surpassed.


What a film.

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I liked Alive better. This one just felt like an exact, scene-by-scene retread of Alive....but with annoying subtitles.
And the subtitles came and went so quickly, you had to stay focused on the bottom of the screen, so you wouldn't miss dialogue.

Also, this was just too long. Between the length of the movie, all the subtitles we had to focus on....and the fact that it didn't bring anything new to the telling, we walked out after about an hour and 15 minutes. Just felt we've seen all this before, but better.

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I've watched tonnes of foreign films and subtitles are never an issue. Better than horrible dubbing.

You didn't even watch the movie anyway so can't really take this seriously.

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Some films shot with a foreign language and subtitles work fine. Apocalypto comes to mind.
But the other distracting factor in this movie was...there were so many dimly-lit scenes, it was just a mish-mash of bearded men's faces, all looking and sounding similar, and speaking in a foreign language. It became hard to dicipher who was who. Who was Nando? Which one was playing Carlitos...?

In Alive, it was easy early on to understand who the initial leader was (Vincent Spano as Antonio)......who the emerging hero was (Ethan Hawke as Nando)......who the comic relief was (Bruce Ramsay as Carlitos). It was also a nice touch having John Malkovich as present day Carlitos, doing the narrating.

IMO, Alive is still the better film experience and telling of the story...and it was filmed 30 years ago.

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Oh, so Alive containing stereotypes and archetypes is somehow better than a film that has the complete blessing of the survivors and the families of the dead? I understood who was who just fine. Numa, Nando, Canessa, the Strauchs, Susana, Liliana and Javier.

Alive was made by Americans for Americans and embellished the details to make it easily consumable for a largely North American audience. The true leader was Numa and Marcelo were the leaders. Marcelo was the captain of the team. Numa was the spiritual centre. Antonio was not the leader. After Numa and Marcelo's deaths, Nando became the leader. That is a fact. The narrating by Numa (Enzo Vogrincic) was perfect. He was speaking for the dead urging the living to survive.

Because the film was filmed 30 years ago and is told largely from an American standpoint means it's better than the film that had the support of the country where this all happened, the survivors who put their full support behind the film, and the families of the dead who felt their loved one were given proper respect and a voice? The part that was classy and put this film leaps and bounds above Alive was how Bayona put the dead's names and ages up the screen in I suppose was hard to read given the "foreign language" was hard to understand? Spare me.

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LOL. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

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You should really stop posting because you sound like a moron. Dumbest post on this site belongs to you. The sad part is you’ll never figure out why

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Dude, everyone thinks you’re a total dick. Who talks like that to other people on an (opinion-based) movie chat site?
Most of the posts of yours I’ve seen on this site, if people don’t agree with your opinion, have shown what a little idiot you are. What are you, 12?

And I’m not the only one to point that out. Nobody wants your negative energy here. Now fuck off.

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This particular subject is not about opinions.
Just re-read your post and see how dumb and poorly written it is.
Ok, so you like the Hollywood Americanized version that didn’t tell the correct story. You shouldn’t be posting about this movie then. Go to the “Alive” board then and talk your jibberish
This board is for the well informed and historians

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I am watching this now. It’s dubbed. Looks like Netflix gives no choice. Mixed emotions on that.

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I watched it on Netflix and it was not dubbed.

Maybe you have dubbed as a setting on Netflix. You can change languages and subtitles on it.

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Look at your menu. I initially began watching the dubbed version, then found the subtitles and the original Spanish.

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Tell me you're American without telling me you're American.

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Complaining about subtitles in 2024 is still a thing?

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Not really a thing...but when there are 2 or more versions of a movie out there, it can factor-in to which one is preferred.

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And subtitles being a reason is a stupid one.

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It can factor-in.

You’re welcome to your opinion, and I’m not going to call your reasons stupid.

It’s just not that important.

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He has a valid point. I watch a LOT of foreign movies and it is true, some subtitles do flash by super fast, especially in Korean movies. I'll still take them over dubbed, every time.

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You’re an idiot. If you thought Alive was better or a good film then you don’t actually know the story. This story has been with me since I was kid. Went to Nando’s and Carlitos speaking engagements

Maybe you should stick to Michael Bay movies because Alive didn’t tell the story

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Nice personality, calling people idiots for having an opinion different than yours? Must be rather lonely, being such a dick in life. Maybe try anger lessons and a few deep breaths. And then: fuck off.

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Learn the facts you dope, this isn’t a fictional story

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No, no. He's correct. Just as a casual observer here, I, as well, was struck by what an unprovoked asshole you were.

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And you’re a bigger dope to believe the first dope has the facts BwaaaWaaaHaaaa

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I was just commenting on the offputting way you presented yourself. I don't have much of an opinion about the specific subject matter you're discussing. For all it matters, he could be claiming that 2+2=12 to your counterargument that it's 4. A correct asshole is still an asshole.

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I like Alive, but I feel like this is the movie I wanted Alive to be. I just wish I could have seen this in the theater, great movie.

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Yeah i do like Alive as well but felt this was a lot more authentic, especially with the Spanish language.

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Yeah this felt more authentic in pretty much every way.

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This is what Alive isn't: gripping! And emotionally affecting.

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Yes on both accounts.

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I totally agree. Don't get me wrong I love Alive, always have always will but THIS is the film we should've got 30 years ago.

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They are both good movies.

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They are yes.

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One has the sanction of the survivors and the relatives of the dead. One has a bunch of over acting Hollywood types who are playing people the survivors don't recognize. Namely themselves.

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I thought that ‘Society of the Snow’ was a much better movie than alive. However the book ‘Society of the Snow’ was even better than the movie. Each survivor had his own chapter and the book contained a lot of information that I had never known before despite reading 8 other books about the Andes Survivors.
In Gustavo’s chapter when he about Arturo’s death it is such a moving scene.

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Thanks i'll have to read that.

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The book is an amazing amazing amazing read

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I prefer the documentary, all facts, not so much boring terror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKToM0lnmxA

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I'll definitely give that a watch on the next film slot.

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