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Thought I'd Leave This Star Wars Article Here


https://historyofyesterday.com/when-frank-herbert-saw-star-wars-85156b40b243

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If Dune REALLY was so much like Star Wars, Lynch's movie wouldn't have flopped and Villaneuve's would be smashing box office records right now. And if Herbert thinks he should have sued George Lucas for having an evil empire in SW, Herbert himself should be sued by the creator of Flash Gordon's estate. Jealous Dune fans can suck it, you're all backing a losing horse.

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The only similarity is that both feature a dessert planet. Luke grew up poor on a farm. Paul is the heir to a noble house lineage. Luke was born on a desert planet and left it. Paul was born on a water planet and moves to a dessert planet. Paul leads an army. Luke flights an X-wing as part of the rebel forces. Both have kind of magical abilities I guess. Both are set in space, but Dune is set in the future and Star Wars is set in a fantasy world. There are practically zero similarities except for both featuring a planet with a lot of sand.

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There are story elements that are taken from Dune

1) Desert planet
2) Prophetic Hero to free the people
3) An enemy Empire
4) Religious warring sect
5) Sci-Fi
6) Hero has innate powers, required training
7) Sand worm

Of course Lucas added his details that makes Starwars very unique in his interpretation of his universe. The various aliens , lightsabers, Death star, Vader, etc. Lucas definitely put his vision into it. It's a rich universe unto itself, even though there are shared themes. Lucas went the cliff hanger cowboy hero route for sure, and was rewarded his box office success.

Where the two diverge is Dune is very dark , while Star Wars is very hero wins the day oriented.
Now that I've seen Dune, I've completely abandoned star wars and its absurd treatment of it's canon stories.
Long live the House of Atreides.....!

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Lmao

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1 I already aknowledged.

2. Was there a prophecy around luke?? I thought that was annakin. This is a trope anyway.

3. The empire in Dune is made up of rival houses. Starwars is rebels against space nazis. Both have technically an emporer, but they are totslly different.

4. The Jedi are lone warriors who are based upon samurais and monks, Paul is a messiah who leads sn army. You can call them both religions in the broadest possible sense, but there is zero similarity.

5. What the hell? Sci fi is a genre. This utterly irrelevant.

6. The heros story. Generic.

7. Lol.

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Lol his book is bland an seriously lacks imagination and world building. The movies are SERIOUS improvements on the book but not even 1% of Star Wars.

Not only is Star Wars more creative and engaging, it is also significantly more intelligent.

Then again maybe he thought he could sue for 1% which would still be bank.

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lol no
both are fairy tales

Dune is kind of interesting, because its origins clearly stem from all the wars in the middle east - spice being oil, US being the empire, etc.

I can't even begin to tell you just how many intricate fantasy/scifi stories can be written based on the current covid situation - lots of lying, backstabbing, conspiring, etc. Game of Thrones is a feeble imitation compared to what we got going on global scale.

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If Covid were a million times more serious you could have Earth Abides, which inexplicably has never been a movie despite being a fantastic book.

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What I meant was that the covid situation has ten times more storylines than the game of thrones - more conspiracies, conspiracy theories, puppets, puppet masters, etc.

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Marxist lies! Dune is based on the Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire.

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You mean when Luke was sucking on the alien udders?
That intelligent? Okay......

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Lol in no way was I referring to the Disney movies 🤣

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LMAO.

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>>>Lol his book is bland an seriously lacks imagination and world building.<<<

You seriously think the novel lacks imagination and world building? Especially the latter. Are you sure you didn't read an abridged version? Like abridged to ten pages? I've never seen or heard anyone claim Dune lacked world building. That is widely acknowledged as one of its great strengths.

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