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Dany should've killed Jon

posted 4 years ago by ADBruno1985 (3312)
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In The Long Night. Okay, I know, people would've hated that, but many hated how it went anyway. And it definitely would've been shocking, going back to the show's earlier roots of no character shields. I feel like that shock would've sustained the remainder of the series. She could've killed him in secret during the battle and then made it appear that he'd just died in battle. She could've said she'd tried saving him. Then we would've had the anxiety of watching her ascend more, but knowing she'd done that. Maybe she still would've fallen, in another manner, maybe if someone had seen and later told.

[–] L1 (1316) 4 years ago

You guys on the left are totally fine with killing humans!

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 4 years ago

No after the Battle at Winterfell and at the celebratory feast when she saw which way the wind was blowing she should have taken her dragon, Dothraki, Unsullied, Missandei and herself back to Mereen. Westeros didn't want her, time to leave.

[–] Crocodile (2964) 3 years ago

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[–] ATG6 (3000) 3 years ago

you're not familiar with megalomaniacs, are you?

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 3 years ago

HA !

[–] Otter (24464) 4 years ago

This is what happened to the Plantagenets and Tudors in real life. People in power killed any family member who might pose a threat, and eventually, the families killed themselves off and died out.

So while it would have made political sense for Danerys to make sure that Jon didn't survive the Battle of Winterfell, and to praise him as a dead hero, it also made sense not to. By marrying him she could claim one of the seven kingdoms and half of geographical Westeros, and force the unwilling Starks to become her official allies, AND keep the pure-blooded Targaryan dynasty going for another few generations. And of course there was the personal element, she loved him and still hoped things would work out, and that she wouldn't have to marry Randyll Tarly or Ellaria Sand or someone worse.

Edit: And she wouldn't have the worry about him taking power like most female monarchs do, he liked being pushed around by a bossy woman. Ygritte, Danerys, Sansa...

[–] TylerAArse (2672) 4 years ago

The love she had for Jon is what would've stalled that process. She wanted it to work with him. The people would never choose her over him, tho. Jon knew it. And plus, she was a tyrant. Jon knew he'd better take her down before she wised up and took him down.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 4 years ago

Nonsense. Jon was too much of a dullard to know more than how to kill people. It was Tyrion who wound Jon up with images of the burnt ickle chijjuns and sent him off to murder Daenerys " You know what you have to do ! " he told Jon.

[–] TylerAArse (2672) 4 years ago

Well, sure. After Tyrion made him see the light. But Jon knew already knew what Tyrion told him. His weak-ass just needed to hear it from someone else.

[–] UncleRuckis (2560) 3 years ago

What she should have done was attack Kings Landing the day she arrived in Westeros. Not wanting to roast innocents is all well and good, but it was war, and people die by the thousands in war. Tyrion S1-5 knew this before the writers made his character a moron.

Just fly in, burn the gates, burn the red keep to ash, and let the ground forces mop up.

[–] Volley (3375) 3 years ago

Yep, I remember the time waiting between Season 6 and Season 7 and formulating strategies for how Daenerys & allies would take Westeros, and heading straight to the Red Keep was the best option and the most likely choice Dany was going to make. Instead, Tyrion overcomplicates things giving Cersei huge advantages time and time again, while Dany keeps losing armies and ships and even dragons to stupidity. Insanity.

'The quest to convince Cersei' may be the most ridiculous thing he has ever proposed and completely out of character.

[–] BourbonKing (5652) 3 years ago

These "woulda, coulda, shoulda" posts are amusing. The story with Dany and her Dragons is absurd in itself. Everything from how lame she is with utilizing the Dragons as tactical death machines that could have easily snuffed out the Lannister clan in King's Landing speaks to GRRM's inability to weave a fantasy tale utilizing supernatural elements. We already know how the story unfolds but looking back you have to wonder why GRRM wrote this novel in the first place.

[–] Kawada_Kira (7269) 3 years ago

This BS isn't GRRM's fault. Everything you're talking about is the work of the show-writers. In the books she's still in Meereen.