Awful choice


For the new Doctor.

The upside is that I won't be watching so I'll still remember Doctor as it was meant to be, not the woke bullshit that's been dished up for the past five years.

Goodbye Doctor Who.

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Please just let this show die.

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I mean who knows how it'll turn out. I mean RTD is at least a good writer this time

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RTD was a good writer LAST time, he may have succumbed to wokeness this time! I wouldn't put it past him!

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You do realize he was still gay and pushing all types of so-called agendas last time he was in charge. No one was upset though because they didn't have incels on the internet telling you that you should be angry.

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We'll see. Well, I can't, as I no longer have a TV licence.

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So your commenting on how bad a show will be as if that will stop you watching but have no intention anyways

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The authorities will know if I've tried to watch iPlayer, believe me.

Besides, I can always read reviews if RTD ditches Chinball's crap.

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What chibnall crap would that be?

If you mean the political stuff, that has always been part of the show. Personally I don't think Chibnall can write it well, but it's not new.

If it's the timeless child stuff, I think RTD will want to do something fresh and probably new. Problem with doing things that call back right to the start is they aren't that good for new fans

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I hope RTD retcons and gets rid of that Timeless Child crap, it left a sour taste in almost every TRUE fan's mouth. And if it didn't... well, they're not true fans.

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Exactly.

I'm not a fan of Chibnall but it makes me laugh when people blame him for bringing political stuff into the show.

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You do realize he was still gay and pushing all types of so-called agendas last time he was in charge. No one was upset though because they didn't have incels on the internet telling you that you should be angry.

Bullshit. The classic RTD seasons barely had any agenda.

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Every era of the show generally has had some. It's baked into the show's biology.

As I have said time and time again - what annoys me is when people bring up politics as if Chibnall was the first to put them into the show. It's always been there, just bad writing and more of a focus has made it far more obvious.

The issue I personally have is the writing. Orphan 55 and climate change - could have been a great idea - Black Mirror is great for example at making interesting cautionary tales

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Every era of the show generally has had some. It's baked into the show's biology.

Every movie and show in history has some. There's no perfectly neutral one. But that's not what goes for "having an agenda".

Modern Hollywood/BBC has become similar to Christian movies, where agenda becomes a key element.

I don't think that's gonna change in Doctor Who. Not because of RTD, I don't know what he would do under normal circumstances. But modern BBC is not gonna allow a Doctor Who show without a strong agenda.

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Ok, now I know you're taking the piss. People bitched and moaned when RTD was in charge that he was forcing gays down everyone's throats and cheered when he left. This was before the age of internet outrage and so-called cancel culture.

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People bitched and moaned when RTD was in charge that he was forcing gays down everyone's throats and cheered when he left.

I was there, and I don't remember that.

Sure, any show in history, somebody is gonna complain, duh. If you mean somebody somewhere complained, then fine. But that's not what's happening right now. Right now, everybody but wokes are very much done with Doctor Who.

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I won’t be tuning in either . I only watched a handful of eps with JW. She wasn’t that terrible but I COULDN’T STAND ANY of the companions. I may tune in to see the first episode.

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Two more boxes checked.

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Original

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👍

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Exactly.

Boxes ticked, non-fans excited, 50+ year fans heading for the exit.

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You do realise the show was always Woke right?

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Since you're saying DW has always been this way, why did Rolling Stone make a big deal about Jodi being the FIRST female Doctor? First means it wasn't this way before now.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/see-jodie-whittaker-make-history-as-first-female-dr-who-200996/

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What?

Jodie was the first female doctor that is true.

Woke is about social injustice apparently and that is something baked into the show.

There's a lot of anti pollution and peace and so on stuff in the 3rd doctors era. Producer Barry letts was a Buddhist

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Anti pollution and peace are mildly progressive themes every normal person agrees with, gender swapping, race swapping, and queering a long time established character to pander to Marxists on twitter is transgressive and woke.

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You do realise the show was always Woke right?

The show started to go woke with Capaldi, and went full woke with Chibnall.

Doctor Who used to lean liberal, but that's no woke. What was labeled as liberal 40 years ago, nowadays it would labeled far-right.

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So the 3rd doctor era has stuff about climate change and isn't woke, but we get that under Chibnall and it is woke.

Online the defenition of woke is "aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)"

To me the doctor is someone who is against social injustice. Can't remember which, but a 3rd doctor episode had the doctor basically saying something like oh your one of those britian for the british, basically calling the person out as a racist.

So what is the difference?

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Online the defenition of woke is "aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues

Which shows the complete lack of awareness.

Every ideology and religion in history think they're actively attentive to most important facts and issues. Any ideology that defines itself as the one that is aware of the most important facts and issues is like a religion that defines itself as the one that follows the only true god. Look askance and say "aha...".

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Which is why I've always said the word Woke is stupid. There is no clear defenition

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Are there any boxes they haven't ticked yet?

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If not, there will be, as more genders emerge.

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Blind and wheelchair doctor

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