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Why is this movie considered good.


Seriously the movie is boring montage of murder. Henry Hill is the same asshole at the being of the movie as he is at the end. He has no character arch, development, or anything. And the rest of the characters are about as interesting as cardboard. At the end Henry Hill goes into the witness protection program not learning a god damn thing. Why is something this fucking shallow as this movie even considered 17 best movie of all time according IMDB. No wonder Dances with Wolves won the Oscar that year.

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Yeah/Nah.

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Aussie?

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Nah/Yeah

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Haha good stuff. I'm from Brissy.

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It's not a boring montage of murder. It's a gritty look at how the underworld operated at the time, and it completely showed the stark reality of how unglamorous the mafia was in all its horrible glory. Yes, most of the characters were about as interesting as cardboard, because criminal sociopaths are soulless human beings devoid of real emotion or personality, no more interesting or personable as a cold blooded pit bull.

And yes, Henry Hill learns nothing, because he's a weasel who only ratted everyone out of self preservation, not for moral reasons. He is not a hero, in other words.

To appreciate this film more, watch all the gangster crime dramas that came out after Pulp Fiction, starting with The Usual Suspects. They all glamorized gangsters as cool, charming funny hipsters with guns or antiheroes who you wanted to hang out with and the gangster life as a cool fantasy. This was the very last realistic gangster drama.

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Wow, you're delusional.

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The movie is actually about selling!

The selling to the audience the appeal of the criminal lifestyle 🙂.

It seems to be little more exciting and fun than working at Amazon 50 hours a week.

Excuse me, I'm going to do some coke and make some spaghetti sauce. (I have to do this every time this movie is mentioned)

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Vinny, don't put too many onions in the sauce.

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I put three onions in, three small onions...

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Three onions? How many cans of tomatoes you put in there?

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Two cans, two big cans!

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You gotta go on a diet, Vinny.

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😆 a true fan!

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True dat. Park a few caddies, get a new suit. Hang out with your boys, stiff the waiter and restaurant, rob the Luftanza flight. Have a gf and wife. Even when you goto the can it’s nothing but friends and family and lobster tails and both kinds of wine, red and white.

When you finally move to suburbia and get a regular job you’re an average nobody. You have to live your life like a shnook.

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Very beguiling for a young man watching it. For the harsh reality, just YouTube the Henry Hill interviews with Howard Stern. That woke me up.

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except for the whole being a drug addict, murderer, extortionist and your "friends" trying to kill you. if that was appealing you should be checked.

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Because the majority of people who’ve seen it considered it good.

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Why does the OP assume that Henry Hills character should change? This is a movie based on a real person and that's how he was.

To give his some sort of redemption or come uppance at the end ( though he was captured) would be absurd.

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Some ppl hear about one good and safe creative design choice, and they assume that it's a requirement for anything good. Or they misunderstand it. Like the idea that because he didn't learn his lesson, he didn't have a character arc.

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Yeah, it's so easy to introduce drama when you have someone using a gun every ten minutes. Now making people laugh -- that's hard.

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A couple of hours of northeastern urban psychopaths beating, torturing, and killing each other is splendid entertainment. Not only that, but for Scorsese and his stars, De Niro, Liotta, and Pesci, it was really stretching themselves outside their comfort zone. It's not as if Scorsese directed or those guys acted in this kind of thing often.

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