Spock is a MOFO Yo.


He really is, especially when he’s left to command the ship, the way he talks to people, he’s practically unbearable. He really lays it on thick without regard as to what he’s saying, who he is saying it to & what tone he’s using. You know they have to be thinking about calling him every 4 letter word in the book in their thoughts. I don’t care how professional you tell me the crew is, you know someone has had to have been thinking “This guy is going to have an accident one day”


Whenever Kirk says “Spock you have the conn” they must be like “Ohh Shii...here we go” Every single thing you can say to the guy he has a tirade against. He may be logical but logic dictates you know how to talk to people. I’d be telling Kirk, I’m glad you came back because this guy is trying to prove something & God knows what that is.

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Kinda xenophobic.

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Yes, the writers overplayed the "I don't understand human behavior" card during several episodes, turning him into serious dickweed when he took command.


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If he acts superior it's because he IS superior, and he knows it, and hasn't learned that a little false modesty makes humans easier to deal with.

But then, a captain really can't act too modest or humble, that's not how heirarchical command structures work.

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Yes, THIS^. Thank you, Otter. Also, the Vulcans believe they have survived because they have learned to repress emotion.

I’ve also noticed that the people who are quickest to feel insulted are those who feel the most insecure. The Enterprise flight deck was populated by very secure personnel, unlike the internet.

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Vulcans don't so much repress emotions, as refuse to let it drive their decision-making process.

That's something humans do ALL THE TIME, even when they think they're absolultely sure they're being logical - humans have this infuriating tendencies to make up their minds first and find "logical" reasons for their decisions second, without have any idea that they're doing it.

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You’re right about folks following their impulses and then finding excuses for them (“Don’t confuse me with the facts. My mind is made up.”), but I guess I don’t understand your distinction between “repress” and “suppress.” I’ve understood “suppress” to mean “to deny [feelings],” and repress to mean “not to allow [something to have power over you].” I’m not omniscient. I can be wrong; but that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

As I understand it, in Freudian terms, repress means “to sublimate” (and reconstruct and therefore pretend to redefine one’s feelings), while supress means “not allowing the feeling(s) to control oneself.”

Let me put it another way: if you deny your feelings, your feelings have complete control over you. If you acknowledge and embrace your feelings, YOU have control over THEM. I posit that Spock and other Vulcans did the latter. It’s only logical.

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The thing is, I'm not so sure that Vulcans either supress or repress their feelings. They *have* feelings, they can feel love and passion and by irritated by Dr. McCoy and so on, but they don't express their feelings as openly as we do, and they really do their best not to let feelings drive their decision-making process we do. Part of that is probably purely cultural, there are Earth human societies where it's just not done to be open about one's feelings, but beyond that I don't think we can do much more than speculate.

We really don't know much about Vulcan psychology or what kind of mental conditioning they use, we just know that the people who try to feel nothing at all are not the norm. And that all of McCoy's assumptions about Vulcan lack of feelings are probably dead wrong.

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Spock is half human so his emotions are stronger than other Vulcans. He is suppressing them and most of the time he's successful. There are a few episodes which show him trying to control them. Kirk said Vulcans don't process emotions the same way humans do so what may have started as cultural could've become biological over time through natural selection.

The OPs comment made me laugh because Spock does act like a jerk when he takes command.

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It's true, Spock's human genetics probably make it more difficult for him to process his emotions the way full Vulcans do, we are VERY emotional beings and IMHO feelings drive more of our decisions than we like to admit. So yes, it's entirely possible he doesn't have the same kind of psychological makeup as the average Vulcan and has struggled with his feelings and has some ineffective coping mechanisms, such as joining that no-emotions-at-all cult.

But he turned out okay in the end, he's a super cool guy overall.

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And, as you said, he IS better than everyone else—like Brienne.

“The ship. . . out of danger?” Probably the most poignant line in all of Trek lore.

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I’ve also noticed that the people who are quickest to feel insulted are those who feel the most insecure


How dare you! You’re just saying that because I’m ugly and stupid. Stop being so mean!

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Yeah, Spock could be a prick sometimes when he was in command. Kirk, too, sometimes verbally abused subordinates. I wouldn't take that kind of crap from either of them.

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The only reply to this can be:
Star Trek Continues E03 "Fairest of Them All"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJf2ovQtI6w&list=PLhvh2eq-XLgqNxH6npvQxGxLCUHy90IpZ&index=3

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