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Why the accusations took so long to become public.


The reason, according to multiple experts, is simple: publishing stories like this in England and Wales is extremely difficult, and fraught with risk.

“People often think that we have a law that protects free speech here. We don’t. We have a law that protects reputation,” says Caroline Kean, a partner at Wiggin who represented the journalist Catherine Belton when she was sued by multiple Russian billionaires. “Getting stories out like this may sound easy to people who watch a lot of crime dramas, but it’s actually incredibly difficult.”

In England and Wales, the subjects of unwanted stories can sue for libel if they believe their reputation has been damaged. The responsibility is on the party taken to court, not the subject of the allegations, to prove the story is “substantially true” on the balance of probabilities, while other defences include that the story was in the public interest, or an honestly held opinion backed up by facts. Developments in privacy laws in the last 25 years have made it more difficult to publish, according to experts.

Which is probably why, as Louisa Compton, the head of news at Channel 4, explained on the BBC Radio 4’s Media Show this week, the teams had “really spelled out how we managed to verify what we have”. Journalists had reportedly interviewed hundreds of sources and seen private emails, texts, medical and therapists’ notes as well as submitting freedom of information requests, scrutinising Brand’s books, interviews and broadcasts to corroborate allegations.

The journalists – and their legal teams – will also have been well aware that Brand had taken legal action previously. In 2014 he accepted “substantial” libel damages from the Sun on Sunday over the false claim that he cheated on his girlfriend Jemima Khan. In the same year the couple were granted an anti-harassment injunction against a masseuse, after police said there was no case to answer over her claims that Brand had assaulted her.

Legal battles can take years and costs are difficult to recoup even if the publisher wins, adds Kean. “Even the big organisations work on a budget, and they have seen cuts and advertising slashed,” she says. “Publishers are having to make calculated, commercial choices on whether they can afford to run certain stories. And as a result many true stories don’t get published.”

The stakes are high for major media groups, but even higher for alleged victims who decide to tell their stories and have little financial backing or legal teams in place to support them, says Mark Stephens, a partner at Howard Kennedy.

“One of the standard ploys, which one particular law firm in London is doing, is to sue or threaten to sue the individual woman, not the journalist or the newspaper,” says Stephens, who represented Zelda Perkins, a former assistant to the disgraced US film producer Harvey Weinstein.

The effect is “chilling”, says Helena Kennedy KC, a criminal lawyer and Labour peer, and many women stay silent because they fear “having the bats of hell come after them”.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/sep/24/russell-brand-and-why-the-allegations-took-so-long-to-surface

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It's not that hard to figure out, people. They wanted to make sure they had their ducks in a row first. And Russell Brand is well within his rights to sue like hell if the accusations are false.

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No don't you see the lizard people co-ordinated this attack because truther Brand was thisssss close to outing their devious scheme and saving humanity.

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How foolish of me.

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Interesting read.

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I thought so too. There have been rumors about Brand online for a while now. His behaviour was known. A lot of people naturally wonder why has it took so long to come out? Well when you're rich and have a good legal team, people best have some very strong evidence against you lest you sue them into oblivion.



The whole courts system is a money trap. My friend is having to take his former partner through the court system to get some access/visitation to his daughter. It was gonna cost him a total of 20 thousand pounds to do so. He left his job and is now unemployed because it'll be free that way. Whole system is a joke.

You can understand why women who were victimized by someone like Brand would be shit scared of outing him and getting dragged to court and paying damages for ruining his reputation. It would ruin their lives.

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That might be the reason... except that some of the things they are slamming him for, such as offering to pay a heroin addict to allow him to boink his girlfriend was no simply a rumor it was something he had previously admitted to, something that the network he was working for had the video of, no danger of any lawsuit for that, but they didn't ever care to bring it up... at least not when he was making them money. The reality is they ignored a lot of shit while he made them money, but when he was making money for himself that is when they suddenly get all moral and start the crucifixion.

Brand is a sleazy fucker, no doubt about it.... but the way his employers ignored everything while he was making them money and now jump in with the lynch mob when he is a threat to them is pathetic.

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I think I'd be hesitant to boink the girlfriend of a heroin addict, no matter what she looked like.

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Very true...but apparently the network he was working for saw the clip they shot where he did it and didn't bother to do anything other than refused to play it. So clearly they knew it was beyond reason but they didn't fire him, they just didn't let it air.

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Did the addict take him up on his offer?

Edit: Nm, just seen your comment further down.

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Apparently everyone was a go but after they agreed and the boyfriend took the money he didn't boink her... Maybe it was because he found a conscious or maybe he just realized boinking a heroin addict is probably a good way to get HIV.

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When they report verifiable facts I don't think there is going to be any problem.

The problem starts when they report "stories", under the name of free speech and free press those stories are mostly just that, stories, or even carefully constructed lies if you closely scrutinise.

I think what you are hearing is the sales pitch from the media that wanted to lie whenever and whatever way they want.

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This is a ripple effect from Johnny Depp.

Amber Heard made an allegation, than her life is destroy. Now women are afraid to speak up.

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Are there any actually credible sources arguing the same thing? Far-left and far-right papers are pretty unreliable in the tribal west of 2023.

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I find it an interesting coincidence that these accusations started shortly after he started yelling against the stuff the Powers That Be keep pushing on the public. I don't support this guy at all, but it's kinda disturbing when another ex-leftwing cult member gets attacked when he starts speaking out against the narrative of his former homies.

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The accusations started long ago. They've just been consolidated and corroborated by multiple women in the hope that they now get taken seriously.

..."but it's kinda disturbing when another ex-leftwing cult member gets attacked when he starts speaking out against the narrative of his former homies."..


Now your talking about alternate realities. Brand being a defector from the left and some sort of liberal champion who had a damascean conversion is a complete fantasy. It never happened. He has always just been a gibbering whimsical pseudo-intellectual. But the comedy career was slowing down, probably because he was being shunned in the UK comedy scene for his reported behaviour, so he identified a market that had a huge appetite for pseudo-reactionary nonsense that he could cater to and bingo!

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These 'experts' are not experts in Russel's life though, and the assumption is made that he is guilty. I'm not suggesting that there isn't an issue bringing such things to light in the UK but so many here have him convicted without any charges being levied against him much less a trial. Considering the grasp of the left which includes judges that act more like activists even a conviction might not be an honest one. Clearly it's fairly fashionable to make snap judgements on this type of thing but I'm old school and cling to the innocent-until-proven-guilty idea.

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Bill Cosby was always a left wing darling. Even after some of the things he had allegedly done to women had been exposed, they were swept under the carpet pretty quickly. It was only after Cosby started to speak at public events with some right wing leaning speech about the less desirable behavior of the modern generation of young black men, in terms of violence against women and drawing the attention of police with their behavior that things started to go against him. He soon drew the ire of young black stand up comedian and other left wing media commentators. All of a sudden the floodgates opened up as decades old allegations of sexual assault came from out of nowhere to end his career. So quite simply, whether both Russel Brand and Bill Cosby have done any, or all of the things they are accused of, it's impossible to ignore that these things only became an issue once they changed their social narrative.

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That is the way of the leftists/establishment.

You must agree to “all” their ways and if you disagree with anything or speak out against them, you become their mortal enemy.

They will dredge up the past or fabricate lies.

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