How do you like me now???
That I am a convicted felon. Down in flames, baby.
sharebetter than Genocide Joe.
shareIf thats true, Joe takes after your god.
Although god wiped out the entire planet except for some amateur boat builders and zoologists.
LAME
shareGotcha
shareevidence please
shareYour the one who thinks Noah's ark story was real.
if it was real, that makes your god a genocidal maniac.
I guess you haven't read the whole story yet.
shareWrong.
Again.
please elaborate.
shareI have read a fair bit of the bible.
sharereading and understanding are 2 different things. you already said you dont believe in God or the Bible, so it wont make any sense to you. I can read about quantum mechanics and psychics but it doesnt mean I will understand it.
shareI do believe in the bible. Not a lot of what it preaches but it does exist. I had a copy at school.
Quantum mechanics and psychics is a far more difficult subject to comprehend then analysing fiction.
you believe in the Bible but then say its fiction? that doesnt make any sense. you either believe its all real or all fake.
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Please read what I wrote.
The bible is an actual thing, so therefore it exists.
I just don't believe most of the stories contained therein are what actually happened.
oh ok. well the Bible says all scripture is God breathed.
2 Timothy 3:16–17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and. is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and. training in righteousness, so that the servant of God. may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
I think they are all real. but thats my opinion.
Explain Noah's ark to me. How did all the animals get to the ark? How did all the animals from other continents get to the ark? How was Noah able to feed and water all these animals with most animals having very specific diets? Where did Noah store the animal's food and water in his ark? How did Noah get all the animals in his ark back to whatever continents they came from when the flood was over? Did Noah also take in all the insects into his ark? If it rained 40 days and 40 nights to flood the Earth then what about all the fish and mammals which live in the ocean that would have died from all that fresh water?
sharethose are all great questions and I have wondered the same thing. I am just a human with limited wisdom and knowledge. I dont know why God does what he does.
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
“Look, the highest heavens and the earth and everything in it all belong to the LORD your God. Yet the LORD chose your ancestors as the objects of his love. And he chose you, their descendants, above all other nations, as is evident today. Therefore, change your hearts and stop being stubborn. “For the LORD your God is the God of gods and Lord of lords. He is the great God, the mighty and awesome God, who shows no partiality and cannot be bribed.
if you are an atheist then you prob wont understand this story. but you can ask God to open your eyes so you will understand.
17 I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. 18 I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people,
The story of Noah.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%206&version=NIV
TheDemon (507) 4 days ago SAID>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"If that's true, Joe takes after your god.
Although god wiped out the entire planet except for some amateur boat builders and zoologists."
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Now THAT"S funny. You gave me my laugh for the day.
about as funny as a dementia patient.
share@ JoWilli.........
I'm very aware you have faith in God, believe with all your heart that God does exist and are a religious person. I don't begrudge your beliefs. I do not believe there is a God so please do not begrudge my beliefs. I actually do have beliefs. I truly believe with all my heart that God(s) does not exist and is just an imaginary friend to billions of people on earth who worship a God(s). And......there are LOTS of Gods but I'm sure you believe your God is the best one of the bunch.
I do wonder, however, what are your thoughts on why your God allows childhood cancer and childhood death. Why does your God allow wars where innocent people are slaughtered, women are raped and children and women are murdered? Why does your God allow natural disasters which cause deaths, destruction and devastation? I do not understand how the Christian God who is omniscient, omnipotent and above all, all loving, can allow any of this devastation to occur. I'm baffled and this is the absolute reason why I do not believe.
At a very young age, right after I was confirmed in the Catholic church, I abandoned the thought that there was a Noah's Ark, an aspen who can speak, an immaculate conception (that story was stolen from the Pagans by the Christians as the Pagans did it first. LOL), and on and on with the fantasy stories. I didn't buy them as a kid and I don't buy them now as a senior adult.
Please do not tell me your God gave people on earth"free will". That is just a BS answer to explain away that a deity does exist. I don't believe that for a hot minute. Also, the "free will" BS does not explain why natural disasters occur. If your God actually was omniscient and omnipotent, the world would be a much better place.
I truly want to hear your answers to my queries. I would like to know how blind faith works when there is absolutely no physical evidence to back up all these stories.
I am back, anyways.
I dont know why God does anything he does, or why he allows bad things to happen. I have the same questions.
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
bad things happen because we live in a fallen world controlled by sin.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
if God didnt allow anything bad to happen, then everyone would live forever and you would have no free will. you wouldnt be able to lie, cheat, steal or have any bad thought. you could drive 100 mph and nothing bad would ever happen. anything and everything would be perfect everyday for infinity.
free will didnt come into existence until Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit.
but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
its not blind faith. I have had things happen in my life that cannot be explained. I could tell you several stories but you wouldn't believe me anyways.
if you need physical evidence then you dont have faith.
these stories happened 2000 to 15000 plus years ago, how could they be proven or disproven? if you want to believe they are fantasy stories then thats your free will. God isnt going to force himself on you.
so far no one has been able to answer this question:
can you provide physical evidence your relatives existed in 1524?
@JoWilli........
Thank you for taking the time to answer me.
No, of course not would I be able to provide physical evidence my relatives existed in 1523. Having said that, there is physical evidence for the theory of evolution which goes against everything the what Christians believe and preach.
I have this question for you...........of all the people in the entire world who have lost a limb from either an accident or from a needed surgery, why is there no evidence of anyone of these people to have had their limb regenerated to become whole again? Surely, there must be people of faith who have prayed to their God to give them back their limb. But......prayers have never been answered. There is not one shred of proof that any anyone in the entire world has had a missing limb regenerate to make a person whole again. Is that what an all loving, all powerful and all knowing God does? Not answer prayers? That is because there is no God.
the theory of evolution is just a theory made up by people who dont believe in God. there is no physical evidence that life created itself. if it did then it would be a sentient being with omniscient powers. if thats your belief then there is nothing I can say or do to sway you and vice versa. all I know is that the universe and everything in it is way too complex to have come from nothing.
because God is not here for our amusement and to answer every prayer. if you have faith and are sincere then he hears your prayer. he might not restore your limb but he will bless you in other ways to make your life easier. if God answered every prayer then anyone could have anything they wanted and it would turn into chaos.
12 Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. 13 But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.
its your free will to not believe in God. but like I said before, things have happened in my life that cannot be explained other than God interceded.
@ JoWilli,
I'd like to hear about one of your things that have happened in your life that cannot be explained.
It just does not make any sense at all to me that people of faith are gunned down in their place of worship. A priest was killed on 9/11 when a body slammed into him on the ground after the person jumped from the tower. How can these people who devote themselves to God meet with such unpleasant demises? God, if there is a God, would offer a pleasant death such as dying in one's sleep at a ripe old age after the person lead a fulfilling and joyful life.
again, we live in a fallen world controlled by sin and free will.
2 Corinthians 5:1-8
[8] We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
people that are saved dont die but are taken by the Lord faster than an atomic second. you wont know you are dead because you will be instantly in Heaven.
anyways. so the year was, well thats not important to this story. I was 19 or 20 and down and depressed so acquired some alcohol and weed and drove to outside the city where no one was at. I pulled into the field across a small culvert and parked my car and got high and drunk. I pondered life and what not. after a few hours of self pity I decided to go home. this was around 1 AM or so. as I was leaving my front passenger tire fell into the ditch. I thought to myself, well this is not good. so I got out and got the tire jack to see if I could free myself. about 10 minutes later a guy in a Jeep showed up and asked if I needed help and he said that Jesus told him to come down this road cause someone needed help. it was a profound moment for me. the next thing I know he freed my car which prob took 15 minutes. the guy never questioned me why I was there or what I was doing, he never griped, yelled or got mad. he got back in his Jeep and left. I still think about that event today and makes me wonder if he was a real person or an Angel.
HEBREWS 13:2
Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.
I have another story if you want to hear it.