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Absolutely NO discussion about writers/actors striking???


Even if we conveniently don't mention all the support industries that will be devastated by film productions closing, does everyone here have no problem with screenwriters and now actors wanting more money/benefits/residuals, etc. for their work?

All the early indicators are saying this could last at least into September/October. While there are enough completed productions "in the can" that will continue to be released for the rest of this year, eventually there will be nothing new. How long will watching old movies/TV shows satisfy us?

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Some sources of information:

Hollywood Studios’ WGA Strike Endgame Is To Let Writers Go Broke Before Resuming Talks In Fall
https://deadline.com/2023/07/writers-strike-hollywood-studios-deal-fight-wga-actors-1235434335/

Productions immediately effected by the shutdown
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/07/actors-strike-productions-shut-down

Proposal to pay actors a single day rate for owning their likeness in perpetuity
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/13/23794224/sag-aftra-actors-strike-ai-image-rights

Quoted from another user on reddit:

The main sticking points for actors (SAG-AFTRA):

residuals for streaming based on viewership

AI regulations (as well as not using it to recreate an actor's likeness after the fact)

regulations against/addressing self tapes. They want auditions to be in person again (this is actually a major point that most people outside of the industry aren't talking about)

Main sticking points for writers (WGA):

residuals for streaming based on viewership (overlap w/ SAG)

AI regulations. No AI in the script writing process (some overlap w/ SAG. Same overall issue, but different specifics, meaning different language in each contract)

"Preserving the writers room". That's how it was written in the WGA pattern of demands and this might actually be the biggest sticking point for the WGA. The two major parts are:

1) breaking up mini-rooms that stop new writers from breaking in and seasoned writers from moving up

2) lengthening the contract length to ensure that screenwriting does not continue down the path to a gig economy

What the studios want (AMPTP):

obviously, none of the above

for the tech companies, and likely the biggest sticking point in all, is the residuals on viewership. This would require them to release their viewership numbers which they have vehemently refused to do, likely because it gives some insight into a not as successful business model as their other metrics have suggest

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I haven't watched anything new for about a year now. Still plenty of things to keep me going 🤷🏻‍♀️.

I think the actors have a good point about AI and residules. The amount of money made by studios is definitely enough to cover what both groups are asking for.

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I'm thrilled about it. I hope Hollywood never gets back to work. The whole industry needs to be torn down and rebuilt. That said, fair compensation for all this new streaming stuff and what not needs to be worked out. It won't be. If they're not doing it for all the music stars getting screwed over by spotify and those services, they're sure as hell not gonna make it work for lowly writers and professional pretenders. It's a broke system and the old business model simply isn't going to work for ever adapting modern technologies.

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I have such a big back catalog of movies . And really enjoy older stuff so much more . So i don't have too much concern. Maybe we will get some cool retro movies back on the big screen too fill up the seats.

I'd love to see perfect blue or there will be blood , or any number of Tarantino movies on the big screen again.

The theaters will be an interesting angle to watch

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Actors strike? What will I watch tonight?!? Oh yeah any number of TV shown and films, not a lot of movies are broadcast live these days.

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I'm fine with it and hope it lasts longer as the industry needs a wakeup call. Maybe in the meantime they can come up with some original shows or films. I have plenty of media to catch up on and then by September we'll be into football season so I'm good.

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I'm on the side of the actors and (especially) the writers, so -- no -- I have no problem with them demanding better contracts and working conditions.

But as for how long I could last without new TV shows and films? Oh, indefinitely. The strike likely won't impact my viewing at all.

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Maybe we can open a book instead then.

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