The main character is the good guy, the villain is the bad guy, isn't it? Wait... what if the villain was the one that could be right at the end of the day?
Movies where the villain is the one that is (or could be) right. Explain why.
1. A Few Good Men (1992) - Nicholson makes a few good points in his speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
1. A Few Good Men (1992) - Nicholson makes a few good points in his speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
2. Karate Kid (1984) -- Martin Kove, in the end his teachings may save these kids their lives!
3. Night of the Living Dead ─ Harry, dude did survive by locking himself in the basement.
4. Smallfoot (2018) - Those Yetis are gonna be slaughtered and experimented fo' sho'.
5. Toy Story (1995) — Sid had no idea the toys he was torturing were actually alive
6. Harry Potter (series) - Professor Snape was actually protecting Harry all along, because of unrequited love he had for Harry's mother, Lily.
7. Blade Runner (1982) - Roy Batty
8. The Wizard of Oz (1939) - The Wicked Witch of the West, the ruby slippers did not belong to Dorothy. They were the Witch's sister's and the Witch should have inherited them.
9. Gone With The Wind (1939) - yeah, gonna side with the yankees. Sorry Scarlett.
share1. A Few Good Men (1992) - Nicholson makes a few good points in his speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
2. Karate Kid (1984) -- Martin Kove, in the end his teachings may save these kids their lives!
3. Night of the Living Dead ─ Harry, dude did survive by locking himself in the basement.
4. Smallfoot (2018) - Those Yetis are gonna be slaughtered and experimented fo' sho'.
5. Toy Story (1995) — Sid had no idea the toys he was torturing were actually alive
6. Harry Potter (series) - Professor Snape was actually protecting Harry all along, because of unrequited love he had for Harry's mother, Lily.
7. Blade Runner (1982) - Roy Batty
8. The Wizard of Oz (1939) - The Wicked Witch of the West, the ruby slippers did not belong to Dorothy. They were the Witch's sister's and the Witch should have inherited them.
9. Gone With The Wind (1939) - yeah, gonna side with the yankees. Sorry Scarlett.
10. X Men series - Magneto, I don't see what is so wrong with siding with your own.
To be honest, the main problem I always saw in Magneto was that "your own" should be more about people with similar core and cultural values. The only thing that "mutants" had in common was having superpowers. Anyway, I guess that Magneto was some kind of metaphor of nationalism, which means he had to be the bad guy.
shareMutants was prosecuted by non-mutants. He was just leading a rebellion. Which are the good guys in Star Wars.
shareOn the other side, I find it logical that non-mutants wanted to control mutants. They were extremely dangerous. It's like having people out there walking with a nuclear bomb in the backpack.
Both sides had reasonable cause. Of course, the movie portrays goody-goody Xavier as the good guy. The difference between movies and real life is that the writer can choose which events will happen, so there's no annoying real life consequences that screws the good guy position.
In movies, the good guys always win. In real life, the winner is the good guy.
shareYeah I know what you mean but then in the story at least "Mutants" are a diverse group, asides from Wolverine and his brother I don't think there were other mutants that were the same? I am not much of a fan of superheroes but that is how I recall it.
And yes Magneto was definitely the racist Nazi of the film. I found it odd that the opposing Mutants were willing to die for humans not to mention kill their own. But that happens in real life too.
I think that's unrealistic. In real life, groups are united because they have close genetic ties, or because they have similar system of values. What happens when a group which is none of these both faces a common threat? These groups usually have very weak bonds. The basic premise of the movie is absurd.
shareYeah I think we see that with some real life groups. Look at multi cult societies they often get divided by race and culture. I guess in X Men they are all mutants and they are bonded by by that alone? I don't know, I thought it was silly that the other team (the good guys) wanted to work with humans and live peacefully with them. In the end it is doomed.
share-great- concept kukuxu
(i get this basic feeling whenever i watch vietnam or iraq/afghanistan war movies - we're the ones invading their country, we're sort of the bad guys by definition, kapish ?)
1. A Few Good Men (1992) - Nicholson makes a few good points in his speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
2. Karate Kid (1984) -- Martin Kove, in the end his teachings may save these kids their lives!
3. Harry in the og Night of the Living Dead ─ Dude did survive by locking himself in the basement.
4. Smallfoot (2018) - Those Yetis are gonna be slaughtered and experimented fo' sho'.
5. Toy Story (1995) — Sid had no idea the toys he was torturing were actually alive
6. Harry Potter (series) - Professor Snape was actually protecting Harry all along, because of unrequited love he had for Harry's mother, Lily.
7. Roy Batty – Blade Runner 1982
8. The Caine Mutiny - Capt. Queeg was a commander with a record of valor, suffering from combat fatigue, who went off the deep end, and was not helped thru his trauma, but rather conspired against. Jose Ferrer does a blistering take at the end of the film.
Agreed. The same happens with Westerns where the Indians were the bad guys. They weren't. They were protecting their lands from invaders. Of course, the colonist weren't villains neither: people have been invading each other for centuries. Indian tribes did the same with other tribes. That's life.
But in general, the systematic portrayal of Indians as evil savages always bothered me.
Just updating the list
1. A Few Good Men (1992) - Nicholson makes a few good points in his speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
2. Karate Kid (1984) -- Martin Kove, in the end his teachings may save these kids their lives!
3. Night of the Living Dead ─ Harry, dude did survive by locking himself in the basement.
4. Smallfoot (2018) - Those Yetis are gonna be slaughtered and experimented fo' sho'.
5. Toy Story (1995) — Sid had no idea the toys he was torturing were actually alive
6. Harry Potter (series) - Professor Snape was actually protecting Harry all along, because of unrequited love he had for Harry's mother, Lily.
7. Blade Runner (1982) - Roy Batty
8. The Wizard of Oz (1939) - The Wicked Witch of the West, the ruby slippers did not belong to Dorothy. They were the Witch's sister's and the Witch should have inherited them.
9. Gone With The Wind (1939) - yeah, gonna side with the yankees. Sorry Scarlett.
10. X Men series - Magneto, I don't see what is so wrong with siding with your own.
11. Mutiny on the Bounty - Capt. Queeg was a commander with a record of valor, suffering from combat fatigue, who went off the deep end, and was not helped thru his trauma, but rather conspired against. Jose Ferrer does a blistering take at the end of the film.
Artisan, you're next (Redsfan was #13 and he passed it)
share1. A Few Good Men (1992) - Nicholson makes a few good points in his speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
2. Karate Kid (1984) -- Martin Kove, in the end his teachings may save these kids their lives!
3. Night of the Living Dead ─ Harry, dude did survive by locking himself in the basement.
4. Smallfoot (2018) - Those Yetis are gonna be slaughtered and experimented fo' sho'.
5. Toy Story (1995) — Sid had no idea the toys he was torturing were actually alive
6. Harry Potter (series) - Professor Snape was actually protecting Harry all along, because of unrequited love he had for Harry's mother, Lily.
7. Blade Runner (1982) - Roy Batty
8. The Wizard of Oz (1939) - The Wicked Witch of the West, the ruby slippers did not belong to Dorothy. They were the Witch's sister's and the Witch should have inherited them.
9. Gone With The Wind (1939) - yeah, gonna side with the yankees. Sorry Scarlett.
10. X Men series - Magneto, I don't see what is so wrong with siding with your own.
11. The Caine Mutiny - Capt. Queeg was a commander with a record of valor, suffering from combat fatigue, who went off the deep end, and was not helped thru his trauma, but rather conspired against. Jose Ferrer does a blistering take at the end of the film.
12. Roland Emerich's 2012 - At the end of the movie, Oliver Platt doesn't want to open the Arc's gates to let people outside enter. Chiwetel Ejiofor gives a final speech a gets those gates opened. The Arc is almost destroyed because of it. Actually, Ejiofor was risking the future of humanity to save a hundred people. Oliver Platt was right.
EDIT Changed Mutiny on the Bounty for The Caine Mutiny (1954), which was the right title.
Nice thread KuKu
Villain, n. : a person or animal of troublesome character in some respect {Oxford}
13. Jaws/Alien - these villians were just doing what came natural to them, survival. They were a threat to mankinds dominance only, this does not put these creatures in the wrong.