There's another thing that has crossed my mind, related to what the bible says about animals and morality. Supposedly, the main thing that separates humans from animals is the knowledge of good and evil, but we stole that. So we would have to answer the question of what else is different about us. As I recall, Adam's job was to look after the animals or something?! Apart from that, nothing really comes to mind. I'd have to really dissect it. But that's not really where I'm going with this.
When it says "knowledge", is it talking about intelligence? What would the world look like if man never sinned? One difference is we'd all be nudists. This is just true of the Genesis account.
Would there be computers, art, sports, skyscrapers, etc, etc? Apparently, no! God looked upon his creation and said it was "good". So without knowledge of good and evil, we couldn't tell the difference between a useful design and a trash one. Creation is an attribute of God. Maybe we are gods, and that gives us the right to torture his creations, because God has the right to torture his creations(for some reason), and we stole his powers.
Here's a fun idea, what if we really stole his powers, and by doing so made it so Satan could kill him, and Satan has just been posing as him this whole time? That would mean every time you felt God, you were just touching yourself. That's assuming you weren't being completely deceived by outside forces.
So to sum it up, if we're trying to emulate God's plan for us, the one from before the fruit was eaten, it would seem to me that we need to be living as primitive tribes do, and taking care of the animals, without caring if it's a good thing to do or not. Feel free to pick apart my reasoning.
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kspkap (13034)
5 years ago
To sum it up....there’s no way I would be able to delve into your hypothesis. The first scripture I thought of was
Hebrews 11:1
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
BTW, the knowledge you speak of included nakedness and carnal knowledge which was the beginning of sin. Nothing more powerful than lust.
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CarterBlunt (1030)
5 years ago
I've often seen people claim that atheists actually believe there's a god, but just convince themselves really hard that they don't believe. To me, "faith" is just lying to yourself really hard... forcing it, not actually being convinced of it. It's the same tool used by people who believe in religions that compete against yours. "Faith" can be used for anything, like I could have faith I'm gonna sleep with Oprah one day. Not a very effective tool for coming to correct conclusions about reality.
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kspkap (13034)
5 years ago
“To me, "faith" is just lying to yourself really hard.”
Please keep this cordial by not insulting me. I am not lying to myself. I have faith in a greater power. I have faith there is God and His Son, the Christ who went to the cross taking the world’s sins, mine included upon His shoulders.
To repeat:
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
Unless this is put upon your heart....you know not of what I speak. I will pray for you. Someone in a chat room who I don’t know personally will have a prayer sent for him. May the Lord bless you with understanding. I only request one thing from you, no more insults please. With that I bid you adieu. I’m finished proselytizing on this board. No need as I would get the same response speaking to a wall.
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