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Should White People Pay Reparations to Black People for Slavery?


As BLM is advocating.

Should all black people, including Oprah, benefit from these reparations?

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Nobody today was alive to have kept black people enslaved. A lot of white people and their ancestors came after the Civil War ended. Should they be forced to pay? Black people are still a minority in many areas so reparations will open the doors for violence against them. Slavery was a bad deal but perpetuating victimhood will not help. Most white people were treated poorly while they were in Europe. It's not as though enslaving blacks is extremely unique in human history. Serfdom during the Middle Ages was pretty much slavery in itself. Work yourself to the bone for somebody else for the privilege of living.

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Respectfully, i don't like applying the perpetuation of victimhood argument. When someone has been perpetually victimized, we can't say it's their own fault.

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I don't see how this is even plausible. Does the government deduct money from white people's paycheques? What if you are a black American but have no ancestors who were slaves? Are they still entitled just because they are black? What if you're black and some of your black ancestors were slave owners themselves? Who decides what amount will suffice? Would native Americans not be entitled to their own reparations?

I also think it sets up a belief that money can solve all problems.

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It's what some people at BLM are advocating.

Personally, I'd like to see a lot more money go to poor black people...

...but I'd also like to see a lot more money go to some poor white people too.

And I'm not sure how I feel about giving more money to rich people, even if they're black.

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White people should pay reparations for all the Chinese sweatshop underaged labors / slaves producing iPhones, Nikes and Adidas for you!

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Jokes on you. I have a strict no Nike/Adidas policy just because. And I don't buy anything related to Apple. I'm an orange kind of guy.

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I have about $47 til payday...I don't think I could pay for that

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An American issue.

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Many countries, including my own, benefited financially from slavery. Maybe it isn't exclusively an 'American issue'.

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not an issue in Canada as far as I know.

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You guys had slavery all the way up until 1833.

Don't believe your hands are clean. None of ours is.

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gone long before 1833 in Nova Scotia/Upper and Lower Canada.

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This is silly.

My mother is an immigrant to this country, from farming peasant stock. My dad is also from a working-class family and descended from Ireland, but I live in the UK and I benefit from the legacy of slavery, as do most of us in the West.

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My ancestors were poor hardworking fishermen who didn't own slaves. Slavery tended to flourish in warmer climes.

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You're missing the point. My family were all poor too. My mother hails from a less advanced country than Canada.

But our countries still benefited from slavery even if we're not personally descended from slave-owners.

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Lots of non-Western countries still benefit from modern slavery today. Go worry about that.

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Hownos, so what is Canada’s history of its involvement with slavery?

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LOL. No.

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No.

Why do people have to be responsible for some bad thing their ancestors did? Would you repay something to another guy whose great great great great great grandfather was killed by your great great great great great grandfather?

In the past, there were fights, killings, discrimination happening amongst and between every nation in the world. Bringing guilts upon a group of modern people for that reason is foolish and definitely unjust.

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That's a good argument, but what would you tell BLM members who are pushing for reparations?

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That they are countering their wish of eliminating discrimination of their race, by bringing discrimination to another race? By deeming all whites are racists and should repent their "sins" by doing something in favor of the blacks, they (BLM people) are the racists themselves.

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I agree, Flips. Can you imagine some guy entering court and tells the judge: "your Honour, the defendant's great, great, great grandfather owed my great, great, great grandfather some money over a bet that he lost and now I'm here to claim what's rightfully his"? Guaranteed the judge would toss the case and tell me that has nothing to do with either of them.

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Ask them to come up with a realistic scheme to see how this would work. And ten years from now people will still be working on it and eventually it will die a natural death.

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It's more a societal issue than a personal one. If a society has acted unjustly toward a class of people, we can't just shrug it off as human nature. And stuff that happened in the last 200 years is a lot different than what happened in the Middle Ages.

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Weren't reparations done a long time ago? Not sure why it would even come up in BLM.

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Forty acres and a mule? Just imagine that. Maybe the mule would have some use, but if every Black Family was given 40 acres of decent land? Hang on to that, pass it down to your children and their children. You might have some very valuable property at some point. But again, how would this have been parceled out fairly? Where is all this land? Who has to move off of it?

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No. It’s unjust and it would worsen race relations

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Just in case you're wondering, I deleted my post because it was supposed to be addressed to snepts. I accidentally sent it to you.

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