I'm kinda glad they're arresting and taking the students away
They love cancelling free speech of people with different views they don't agree with to speak on their campuses but also complain when they're silenced. Goes both ways.
shareThey love cancelling free speech of people with different views they don't agree with to speak on their campuses but also complain when they're silenced. Goes both ways.
shareSome were targeting jewish students. You dont see a problem with that?
shareIt is quite interesting, isn't it? There were actually pro-Israel demonstrators at most of those protests, and they were usually the ones shouting anti-semitic languages while waving Israeli flags, and give police an excuse to move in and suppress the students supporting Palestine.
shareYes, I saw that one in NY where they attacked at night. Then I saw another from a different state attack the opposite. Instigators everywhere.
shareThe students didn't cancel free speech - the media outlets at the behest of the government did.
You think some poor student tells Mark Zuckerhamburlger and his billionaire buddies what to do?
It is kind of interesting to see how much Jewish lobbies have control over US media and politicians, isn't it?
This is not like Vietnam War protests, which were violently suppressed. This is the police suppression of student protests on behalf of another government.
Some of the police beatings of those students and professors were quite disturbing.
I just came across this in research on the topic: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/1/us-house-passes-controversial-bill-that-expands-definition-of-anti-semitism
"US House passes controversial bill that expands definition of anti-Semitism", which means any statement against the state of Israel is now considered anti-Semitism thus against the law.
It means you are free to make anti-US statements, but not anti-Israel statements, in US.
Kind of funny, isn't it?
You never seen those videos of students cancelling people invited to speak on campuses?
https://youtu.be/orzuClSpGCc
There are numerous instances of this where people are invited to speak on campus and they cancel them.
These same protestors were likely rioting and burning down cities four years ago during the Summer of Love so I have no sympathy for them.
shareIs there a reference or link to the events you mentioned?
shareIts just my opinion and I'm guessing these protests will likely get worse once the summer is here.
shareThese same protestors were likely rioting and burning down cities four years ago during the Summer of Love
I know what he is talking about... do you really not know, or are you being purposefully obtuse?
shareI am not American, so I can only get the information about this on web, so could you provide a reference?
If they were burning down cities, it has to be on the news. And I would be very surprised this indeed happened in US four years ago and I did not hear anything about it.
Google the black lives matter/george floyd riots in the summer of 2020.
shareBut they were not students, were they? At least majority of them were not, it was not a student movement.
If you read the article: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/12/31/2020-the-year-black-lives-matter-shook-the-world
There was not even one word about students.
I would definitely say that the majority of them were young people, lots of students were involved of all ages.
shareYeah, I read an article about a white high school student joined in the BLM protests, because of his skin colour they welcomed him with open arms and put him in the front, and he took a lot of photos and put them on his facebook page, used it as a part of his resume and got into Harvard. After that he left the movement.
So I think there were definitely students, but other than people like the one I mentioned, I assume majority of them were black, and at least from the reports I was reading most of the protestors were average people instead of students.
I agree since the shit state they left the campus in after they were cleared out.
https://youtu.be/ZmBk3T935CI
All this graffiti everywhere similar to ANTIFA-like setting. Reminiscent of CHAZ on the Summer of Love.
Almost all the people they have arrested aren't even students.... they are paid agitators, as per usual with their ilk.
shareWho is paying them? It looked like happening in a lot of universities and hundreds of students and professors were arrested, at least according to the US media they were students, and the nationwide movement was organised by student organisations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hundreds-palestinian-protesters-arrested-campuses-universities-crack-e-rcna149705
The money starts with George Soros, and filters it's way down... It's a club, and you aren't in it.
shareYou do know Soros is Jewish, right?
Not just entertainment industry, Jewish people are also quite dominant in financial industry.
Goldman Sachs is founded by Jewish. Henry Paulson, who was CEO and later the treasure secretary during GFC, is Jewish.
The Goldman Sachs CEO after Henry Paulson is Lloyd Blankfein who is Jewish, after that the current CEO David M. Solomon is again Jewish. So to run Goldman Sachs you pretty much have to be Jewish.
The current treasure secretary Janet Yellen, who was also 15th chair of the Federal Reserve, is Jewish. The 14th chair of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke is again Jewish.
Jordan Belfort in "The Wolf of Wall Street" is, you guessed it, Jewish.
The facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is also Jewish, so you are not going to see a lot of pro-Palestine content on facebook:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/21/meta-facebook-instagram-pro-palestine-censorship-human-rights-watch-report
https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/systemic-censorship-palestine-content-instagram-and
I think now you have a pretty good idea why the pro-Palestine student protesters are met with quite brutal police force and being arrested in thousands.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/1/us-house-passes-controversial-bill-that-expands-definition-of-anti-semitism
"US House passes controversial bill that expands definition of anti-Semitism", which means any statement against the state of Israel is now considered anti-Semitism thus against the law.
And I'm not Jewish and also support that those rioters will sit a while in prison to reflect on their undemocratic behaviour, ha! βοΈβ
shareWell, I am Australian, not that invested on either side, so this is more entertainment for me. But I do have thoughts and opinions on what is happening, and there is nothing good on recently.
In Australia we kind of have this "We don't want to end up like Americans, do we?" attitude. That was said when John Howard enacted strong gun laws in the 90s after several mass shootings.
And more recently NSW premier said something like "Sydney is starting to look like San Fransisco with middle class homelessness" due to the recent rental vacancy crisis and rent rises, and we don't want that.
And like now I can laugh at those Americans who think street demonstrations are undemocratic.
Highly recommended for you:
https://moviechat.org/tt4378376/Babylon-Berlin
This series shows very well, where 'harmless' street demonstrations can end up. π’β
Yes, that is why we need police using shot guns shooting rubber bullets at largely peaceful students, which I just watched on the news yesterday.
It was said rubber bullets of that size could cause bone fractures, they could lose an eye that way, now that is totally how democracies should work, with violent suppression of people trying to raise their voices.
"...largely peaceful students..."
Those students aren't peaceful, open your eyes.
If you didn't just catch a rubber bullet...sorry, couldn't help to say that. βΊ
I have seen enough.
I have read before that in US there are various ways to crush an unwanted street demonstration. One of the stories was protesters attacked police were later revealed as under-covered police officers.
There are also more recent revelations on social media that pro-Israel demonstrators shouting anti-Semitic languages during those student demonstrations, which made the whole demonstration illegal, at least enough for police to move in and arrest pro-Palestine demonstrators.
Now whose eyes are wide shut.
I don't think your guys really don't understand this, you can't all be shills, can you?
Nearly half and half. About 47% out of state or non-affiliated.
https://youtu.be/Pp7Rkami3-c
the same assholes who wanted to defund the police , then crime went up cause they listened π€£
lets all listen to the side chanting death to america
You mean the American university students? They are not the Arabs. Why do you guys keep comparing students to BLM looters and Arabs.
You guys are not all shills, are you? Or is media brainwashing that easy?
They educate the students just enough for them to qualify as political activists in prison, but not enough to actually make them be significant. Smart thinking.
shareRorikon (16425) 10 hours ago by
They love cancelling free speech of people with different views they don't agree with to speak on their campuses but also complain when they're silenced. Goes both ways.
The same was said about occupy wall street movements, I watched Obama calling them thugs.
But the same was not said about Arab spring, colour revolutions and Hong Kong riots.
Strange how the same things regarded so differently.
Maybe there were double standards in the past.
That's not the point...NOW.
They arnt "double standards" each of those protests is an entirely separate issue and to just write them off as thugs shows you have not even bothered to consider "the cause" and therefore how the hell can you have an opinion let alone broadcast it to everyone else?
moviechatterer (13409) an hour ago
They arnt "double standards" each of those protests is an entirely separate issue and to just write them off as thugs shows you have not even bothered to consider "the cause" and therefore how the hell can you have an opinion let alone broadcast it to everyone else?
again, whether "the cause" justifies the means depends what "the cause" (and the means) is, that is my point.
I certainly think the Arab Spring events were justified.
Which I made because you dismissed all the things fc31 listed as 'double standards' .
actually maybe i misunderstood what your double standards reply meant.
You didn't only misunderstand the double standards. β»
Apparently you misunderstand what Free Speech means.
Therefore YOU feel entitled to decide, about what people are allowed to "broadcast" their opinions about.
And of course YOU decide which cause justifies the means. πβ
https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1344784152580_1059406.png
This thread is not about "Occupy", "Arab spring", "Colour revolutions" and not about the brave "Hong Kong" students who fought and died for freedom and democracy.
Maybe you can leastwise understand THAT.
well , forgive my apparently feeble English comprehension and parsing skills but when this exchange happened -
fc31:
The same was said about occupy wall street movements, I watched Obama calling them thugs.
But the same was not said about Arab spring, colour revolutions and Hong Kong riots.
Strange how the same things regarded so differently.
[β] TimeTunnel (4668) a day ago
Maybe there were double standards in the past.
That's not the point...NOW.
you calling the different reactions to the different things "double standards" shows that
1) you dont see the difference between them
2) we *are* now talking about those things - or at least i am because I'm referring to your take on those things ( the "double standards" )
Blabla to distract from your dubious points of view.
Bye. πβ
None of these students have a "Cause".. They just want to get on social media and or the News with many of them not even knowing why or what they're protesting about
sharehttps://x.com/kahlissee/status/1786287326101999968?s=46
Imagine, America is doing this to its own citizens, just so Israel can continue murdering children....
Imagine, the Porsche goes into the scrap press. ποΈβπ©β π¬β
shareThe video he showed was actually quite tame, but it did show rubber bullets were being fired by police.
And clearly it is not fake, because I saw the same on the US mainstream news.
This is from a Hongkonger, showed more police rough handling during arrests, and comparison with Hong Kong riots: https://twitter.com/NuryVittachi/status/1786316086134354028
This is from CGTN, which is a Chinese news outlet, surprisingly more objective and informative than other news outlets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVw3gcy1oLY
It looked like at least in LA the police won.
The Russian media outlet reporting of the event is a lot more aggressive in tune: https://sputnikglobe.com/20240502/us-senator-calls-for-palestinian-protesters-to-be-added-to-terrorist-no-fly-lists-1118220031.html
It was not even in the headlines of our state broadcaster ABC news (not the American ABC news), you can only find it if you try to browse the 'world news' section and there was only a mention: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-03/24-hours-in-us-america-weekly-wrap-jade-macmillan/103798930
You have to use search function to find anything related to the protest on the Sydney morning herald, which is a more popular corporate media outlet in Australia. But it looks like we are more civilised: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/part-of-who-we-are-why-sydney-uni-vice-chancellor-allows-protest-camp-to-stay-20240430-p5fnpk.html
That was pretty tame for CGTN, they're usually very pro-China nationalist news. I guess it may be a bit different from actual CGTN instead of CGTN America.
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Blame the campuses that requested them. They only came due to that when it started to become unlawful. Also, it's vastly different compared to authoritative nations that do this. In authoritative nations they use real bullets and not CS gas/beanbags to disperse the crowd.
shareIn authoritative nations they use real bullets and not CS gas/beanbags to disperse the crowd.