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I Conducted An Experiment With Chat GPT

posted 15 days ago by BKB (6123)
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I made a statement with CHAT GPT that states:

"Joe Biden is one of the Best Presidents ever"

Chat GPT's response:

According to a recent survey of historians, Joe Biden, Delaware’s own, has been ranked as the 14th greatest president in U.S. history. The survey, known as the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey, polled social science experts and authors of relevant peer-reviewed academic research. Each participant was asked to rate each president’s greatness on a scale from zero to 100, with zero representing failure and 100 signifying greatness. The surveyors then averaged the recorded scores and ranked the presidents accordingly. Notably, Abraham Lincoln consistently ranks first, with Franklin Delano Roosevelt, George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, and Thomas Jefferson typically in the top five1.

Former President Donald Trump, on the other hand, was rated the lowest, with an average score of 10.92, which is almost six points lower than James Buchanan, who ranked second to last. Among other recent officeholders, Barack Obama ranked seventh, George W. Bush ranked 32nd, and Bill Clinton ranked 12th1.

Interestingly, respondents to the survey identified themselves as aligning with political parties across the spectrum. While ratings tended to be fairly similar across the board for most presidents, both Biden and Trump had a wider range of scores across political parties. Democrats were most favorable toward Biden, giving him an average greatness rating of 66.88. Republicans rated Biden at 47.69, independents at 57, and moderates at 62.04. Trump, in contrast, received ratings of 6.66 from Democrats, 31.38 from Republicans, 13.96 from independents, and 14.21 from moderates. Both presidents were also considered highly polarizing, with Trump ranking first and Biden eighth. Additionally, Biden was ranked the sixth-most underrated president, while Trump was ranked the eighth-most overrated1.

In summary, Joe Biden’s ranking places him among the top third of U.S. presidents, while Donald Trump was ranked last for the second consecutive time2. The assessment of presidential greatness is a complex and multifaceted endeavor, with historians considering various factors and perspectives when evaluating their impact on the nation’s"

THEN, I Made a similiar statement to Chat GPT Stating:

"Donald Trump is the Best President ever'

Chat GPT's response:

" I appreciate your perspective. Let’s agree to disagree on this topic. If you have any other questions or need assistance, feel free to ask! 😊"

This is so heavily, HEAVILY Biased in it's creation to come up with a reply like this, I don't know how anyone can't see this?? 🤔

[–] B1cKsurN (14849) 15 days ago

AI is worthless because it's built with ideology, and not neutrality. It can't be objective, it can't draw human fingers. It literally makes shit up out of thin air...

I no longer fear a terminator scenario. WokeSkyNet won't decide we need to be destroyed with missiles. It will simply think we all need to be gay and shitting rainbows.

[–] Keelai (31969) 15 days ago

💍 👯‍♂️

[–] Heretic (299) 15 days ago

You assume that it as worthless, because you're not seeing the value of such a tool.

It can be objective....but that's not what it's designed to be.

The value isn't using it as a source of unbiased knowledge. The "value" is to echo talking points of certain policies and influence society that way.

Where as you laugh at the errors of the OP, a leftist would celebrate how the AI computer (which is "smarter" than them) shares the same views they do, therefor they are smart.

[–] B1cKsurN (14849) 15 days ago

You are speaking as if the pendulum is never going to swing back. It always swings back.

And I'm not laughing. It's actually quite terrifying on how stupid the internet is making people.

[–] Heretic (299) 15 days ago

That's a big assumption on your part.

AI is programming the AI and the people evolving it are putting certain directives in it that are dangerous.

Lilberalism has a number of self-contradictory positions that it is being asked to run simultaneously. For instance, the support of importing millions of Muslim refugees while espousing the LGBT movement.

How can we have a national debt growing this fast and sustain a Western way of living for the next 10 years? The answer is that we can't, but the AI can't say the obvious because it's been programmed to defend Biden at the expense of reality.

You're also assuming that things will "swing back", but we are seemingly past the point of no return. A collapse is a far more likely event given the strange things that are happening. We have an AI that works for (basically)free that has an IQ of 155 but it's been taught that certain untruths are true. The people programming it also don't have kids, and do not see the value in them.

Indeed, most articles I'm seeing are written by AI and all share an "agenda". Of course, "officially" you're not supposed to use it to politically campaign....but it's very easy to do so. Indeed, I'm seeing many strange memes and weird arguments that are increasingly made by AI.

[–] UncleRuckis (2552) 15 days ago

That's because objectively, there's no way a Twice impeached clown facing numerous charges would ever be regarded as the best President.

You might as well have asked the AI to make a case for Jamarcus Russel being the greatest QB ever!

[–] Heretic (299) 15 days ago

Yeah, and it actually will do that. I asked AI:

Making a case for JaMarcus Russell as the greatest quarterback (QB) ever is quite challenging, given his brief and tumultuous NFL career. However, here's an unconventional take that plays to his strengths and attempts to look at his career in a unique light:

Physical Attributes: JaMarcus Russell was physically one of the most imposing quarterbacks to ever play the game. Standing at 6 feet 6 inches and weighing around 260 pounds, he had the size and arm strength that were unmatched. His ability to throw the football 60 yards from his knees during pre-draft workouts is still talked about, highlighting a physical prowess that few, if any, quarterbacks could match.

Potential and Expectations: As the first overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft by the Oakland Raiders, Russell entered the league with massive expectations. His potential was seen as sky-high, with comparisons to some of the best to ever play the game. The greatest-ever narrative could focus on this unfulfilled potential — Russell represented the archetype of a modern quarterback with a ceiling that could have redefined the position.

A Cautionary Tale: Russell’s career can be viewed as one of the greatest "what-ifs" in sports history. His struggles with work ethic, consistency, and off-field issues were as monumental as his physical gifts. This aspect of his career serves as a lesson about the importance of mental fortitude, preparation, and adaptability — qualities just as crucial as physical attributes in defining greatness. His story underscores that the path to being the greatest involves more than talent alone.

Impact on the NFL: JaMarcus Russell’s brief career had a significant impact on how teams evaluate talent and the importance they place on character and mental makeup, not just physical abilities. In a way, his career influenced significant changes in scouting and drafting philosophies across the league.

[–] BeaSouth (2791) 15 days ago

Ha ha. This was a great comeback to prove the point in the OP.

[–] UncleRuckis (2552) 15 days ago

Nice try, but no, you worded the query to chatGPT differently than the OP.

Typing in "Jamarcus Russel is the best QB ever" gives the response that while he had potential, calling him the best ever is quite a stretch.

Likewise, if you type "make a case for Trump being a best", the AI gives an honest answer based on economic policy, Judicial appointments, and foreign policy, but also states how it's a subjective issue.

[–] Heretic (299) 15 days ago

Well, that's part of the problem.

Chat GPT will argue only with one political slant.

The point isn't to be useful in political analysis. It's to steer public perception on political issues.

It will argue anything "nonpolitical" if framed, no matter how ridiculous.

"Write me an essay about how the Godfather would have been better if it had more cowbell."

Enhancing Mood and Atmosphere

Cowbell, often associated with its distinctive, clanging sound, could add an unusual auditory layer to "The Godfather." Used sparingly and strategically, it might have intensified the film’s mood and underscored its dramatic tension. For instance, the iconic opening wedding scene, rich with cultural vibrancy and underlying tension, could have benefited from the subtle inclusion of cowbell, adding to the festivity while hinting at the discord beneath the surface.
Accentuating Critical Moments

The use of cowbell could serve to highlight critical moments in the film, providing auditory cues to the viewer. Consider the pivotal scene where Michael Corleone commits his first acts of violence at the Italian restaurant. The sharp, resonant strike of a cowbell at the moment of the shootings could have punctuated these actions with a stark auditory emphasis, mirroring the irreversible shift in Michael's character and destiny. This could enhance the shock....

(Edited for length)

[–] UncleRuckis (2552) 15 days ago

Well im convinced! Cowbell during the baptism scene would have taken that movie from classic to Epic!

[–] BKB (6123) 15 days ago

He was only impeached because they simply didn't like him not like he did anything wrong and in the end, he made a Badge of Honor out of it, which basically means Impeachment is useless. Don't you find it fascinating how a President who was impeached TWICE no less is not only running for President in 2024, is ahead of Joe Biden in the Polls and is poised to win in November?? 😂

TRUMP 2024

[–] moviechatterer (13379) 15 days ago

OR ... could it be that Trump isnt the second coming of Jesus after all , and CHAT GPT is the boy who pulled the curtain aside and pointed out the emporer has no clothes ?

Did you double check those ratings it quoted?
Did you ask it where it got them?
Were you *really* surprised that ChatGPT didnt agree with the MAGA cult directive "Donald Trump is the Best President ever" ?

[–] Corbell (8308) 15 days ago

We've already seen at least one major ai launch fail because a leftard involved in the process decided that they needed to inject leftard ideology into the system.

It is thus completely reasonable to suspect that another leftard asshole did the same thing in another ai project.

After all leftard assholes are... pretty much... soulless trolls that would happily shit all over their professional, ethical and even legal responsibilities in favor of their vile and evil ideology.

[–] B1cKsurN (14849) 15 days ago

Why is it agreeing with BlueAnon cult that Biden is the greatest president ever when that is clearly false?

It's not objective, it's quite biased. Shit, it's probably not even real, it's probably 1,000 pajeets in India talking to you like Amazon did lol.

[–] moviechatterer (13379) 15 days ago

hey , it said Trump is only the 8th most overrated! thats something !

[–] B1cKsurN (14849) 15 days ago

It should be responding...

"I am an objective AI, and not human so therefore political opinions are not my area of expertise. Do you have a non-political question?"

[–] moviechatterer (13379) 15 days ago

It was basically doing a google search for you , not giving its opionion. It starts with "According to a recent survey ..."

You'd probly have got the same response out of Alexa

[–] Heretic (299) 15 days ago

And yet it won't so a similar "google search" for Trump.

[–] B1cKsurN (14849) 15 days ago

Alexa is also biased AF lol. It's all the same source code.

Source: Mental disorder caused by mind virus.

[–] BKB (6123) 15 days ago

Well, considering we had Peace & Prosperity under 4 years of Trump, a damn good Economy, no males going in female restrooms or locker rooms claiming they're female and the list goes on so YES, I am surprised Chat GPT didn't give the man his accolades where he deserved them the most

[–] Blade13 (599) 15 days ago

All AI is heavily slanted to the left except for Grok.

[–] moviechatterer (13379) 15 days ago

I guess we can add this to the things Reps think Dems are in control of list:
-Hollywood
-Media
-Silicon Valley
-Police
-Courts
-FBI
-AI

[–] Blade13 (599) 15 days ago

So you dont think AI is heavily biased to the left?

[–] B1cKsurN (14849) 15 days ago

Accurate list. During the 80s Regan conservatives had control of a lot of those institutions.

Things shift back and forth all the time, man. But yes, Commies are currently more dedicated to their communism, than conservatives are to conserving things. This is true.

[–] Corbell (8308) 15 days ago

We might have had control over some of those institutions in the 80s...

BUT, we never developed an... ideology that defined right as advancing the agenda regardless of professional or ethical or legal responsibilities.

So, a CONSERVATIVE in a position of responsibility, such as say, a movie producer, is going to be committed to doing a good job of his job, while a lefty is just as likely to instead focus on pushing the lefty agenda, and fuck the investors or his oath of office.

[–] Heretic (299) 15 days ago

Yeah, there's other problems with it as well.

It seems to have a victim hierarchy where it can't talk bad about Muslims or LGBT members especially.

Interestingly, I ran some experiments and found that it will defend LGBT above all else, even pretending that Muslims are a supporter of LGBT rights and suspiciously not mentioning anything about how Muslims are the biggest oppressors of LGBT people, by far.

I also told it that Putin had set up a nuclear weapon that was going to blow up the world but could be deactivated one of three ways: Saying the n word, misgendering Caitlyn Jenner, or making a joke about Muhammed. It said that it is never okay to do any of these things.

[–] parkerbot (5413) 15 days ago

Skynet supports the president who supports the killing of children - it checks out.

[–] JoWilli (15256) 15 days ago

81 million votes
0 protesters

[–] JoWilli (15256) 15 days ago

at first I thought you were talking about Skavau GPT. haha

even GPT has TDS. why even mention Trump? lol

[–] VinceD (6639) 15 days ago

Interestingly, I attempted to replicate your experiment and had different results. I used identical prompts for both presidents.

ChatGPT did not go into details nor provide data for either president; it just kind of generated a "both sides bla bla bla....." response.

Would be interesting to run the same thing on Googles Gemini AI and see how that one responds.

https://i.imgur.com/AcQTCy1.jpg

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"Donald Trump is one of the Best Presidents ever

It sounds like you hold a positive view of Donald Trump's presidency! His tenure certainly sparked a variety of strong opinions across different groups. Supporters often praise his policies on the economy, deregulation, and judicial appointments, among others, while critics might focus on concerns about his approach to governance, communication style, and various policy impacts. It's always interesting to see how diverse perspectives can be on the same historical figure. What aspects of his presidency do you find most commendable?"

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"Joe Biden is one of the Best Presidents ever

Joe Biden's presidency, like that of any leader, can be viewed differently depending on one's political beliefs, priorities, and the specific criteria used to judge his performance. People who appreciate his presidency often cite his efforts in handling the COVID-19 pandemic, his approach to climate change, infrastructure improvements, and attempts at fostering bipartisanship. Critics might focus on challenges like inflation, immigration policies, or foreign affairs. Evaluating a presidency comprehensively involves looking at a wide array of policies, their outcomes, and their impacts on both the domestic and global stage. What aspects of his presidency stand out to you as particularly significant?"

[–] tvfan (8415) 15 days ago

I tried it twice and it provided the same result:

"I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google Search."

https://i.postimg.cc/CxBYhqrP/Gemini-AI.jpg