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Massive Genocide happening now in Sudan, but no university protests. Why not?


The world largest displacement is happening in real time in 🇸🇩.

4.3 million are internally displaced due to genocide.

1.1 million are refugees.

The world is silent.

https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/1736745095469084688


Massive Humanitarian Crisis in Sudan: I’m sorry it’s true. No Jews? No news. Note how there are no university protests. No massive NYC marches for the children of Sudan or Syria or Yemen or anywhere but Gaza. No keffiyeh masked white students attacking Santa Claus at the mall while claiming Jesus is Sudanese. No calls for Russia to stop supporting genocide. Nothing. Not one word.

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It is part of a media blackout just like thousands of other articles that NPCs like you never hear about because you are too brainwashed with main stream and/or legacy media that controls the narrative......Give it some time...maybe.

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It was literally on the frontpage of the BBC site when it started.

But there are many conflicts that have been ongoing in the last, say, 5 years that don't get much media attention in terms of frontpage. Are you suggesting that this particular conflict should be frontpage of every major media outlet every day?

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There are no protests about the injustice against women and girls in Afghanistan. Its also the same reason you dont hear about the Ukraine/Russia war anymore.

Thats what happens when you vote democrat and for Biden. Maybe you should rethink your ideology in 2024.

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What on earth are you on about?

The Ukraine-Russia war is still frontpage on many news outlets.

>Thats what happens when you vote democrat and for Biden. Maybe you should rethink your ideology in 2024.

Are you genuinely claiming that if Trump was in office, the Sudanese conflict would be frontpage news across the media?

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Jews is why the focus is on Israel. Everyone knows this. If it was Muslims killing Muslims no one would care.

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The 2005 movie Sahara sums it up quite nicely.

"It's Africa. Nobody cares about Africa."

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U.S. is sending billions of dollars, bombs, warships, diplomats, and threats to neighboring countries to help Israel commit genocide against Palestinians.

The American people have a right to object to how our taxes are being spent!!!!

Sudan sounds like a civil war between to factions WITHOUT U.S. support.

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The American people have a right to object to how our taxes are being spent!!!!

Where was your outrage when they were doing the same for Ukraine?

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I'm pro-Ukraine. Russia is the imperialist invader just like Israel.

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Yes, I'm aware that you support one dictatorship over another regardless that our tax dollars are been used for laundering, child trafficking, and the support of biolabs in Ukraine.

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You're a traitor for supporting America's enemy, ex-KGB spy and present Dictator Putin who has kidnapped and is holding our citizens captive.

You support thousands of Palestinian children being slaughtered. You are a hypocrite!

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I support USA.🇺🇸

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Then, you should support our ally Ukraine over our enemy Russia.

And you should defend little kids who are being bombed or orphaned by a right-wing extremist criminal Netanyahu who knew about the Hamas attack for a year and did nothing, was warned by soldiers about Hamas training and did nothing and finally allowed Israelis to be attacked for 8+ hours and did nothing.

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You're a straight up fucking retard.

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Says an anti-vaxxer nutjob.

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>>>Sudan sounds like a civil war between to factions WITHOUT U.S. support.<<<

For the most part it is, but not in Syria and Yemen, those are US backed wars that are causing what the left considers to be "genocide" and displacement like in Gaza. Where is the outcry, exactly? I mean, other than a few protests we've seen in foreign nations, I see nothing.

Again, we don't hear much about the conflicts going on in other parts of the world which are in no short supply, but we know why Gaza is getting so much attention. Ummm.. yeah, Jews... umm, yep. Here are 10 other conflicts that are going on and/or could become pretty hot this year and with some backing of the US...

https://www.crisisgroup.org/global/10-conflicts-watch-2023


What's happening in Israel is just antisemitism. No one is "really" this angry over this conflict, which has been going on for more than 80 years. This is just Jew hatred and college campus brainwashing and nothing more. Protestors don't even know what they're protesting. There is no free speech in Gaza, there is no women's rights in Gaza, there are gay rights in Gaza, there are no political parties in Gaza other than one, Hamas, they don't welcome thoughts and opinions that vary in Gaza.

I know, I know, you're going to come back and say "but Israel" and leave it at that. It's time to set aside what "Isreal" does and realize Hamas is in no position to dictate what happens in that part of the world. Israel controls that land and that's all there is to it. They fought in 5 major wars to gain that land. It's over, it's time for permanent peace.

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Nope. You're missing the real reason why everyone has RECENTLY become upset about the Palestinian ethnic cleansing and genocide. Recently is the key!

Anti-Semitism and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians have existed for generations. Why are people demonstrating NOW?

The same reason which created the massive global George Floyd "Black Lives Matter" movement. Remember police brutality and murder of black men have existed for generations. Why did Floyd's murder set-off a global movement?

The answer:
video coverage

Video of Floyd being killed. Videos of Palestinian suffering. Sudan and Yemen don't have daily video showing suffering, therefore out of sight = out of mind.

Israeli government was expecting to ethnic cleanse and commit genocide without the world caring. Those videos documenting Israeli atrocities and the ongoing social media have placed a huge spotlight on them.

After the Vietnam War, it became U.S. policy to NOT televise its wars because the nightly video coverage helped to create a huge anti-war movement in the U.S.. Israel has the same policy which is not working right now.

Palestinians are winning the PR war.


"It's over, it's time for permanent peace."

No justice. No peace.
Israel's idea of peace is to continue to oppress Palestinians and steal increasingly more land while the world and Palestinian people don't object. Palestinians aren't going to allow anyone to shat on them and not complain and fight back.

There was a great scene in the series, "Man in the High Castle". Basically, the Allies have lost WW2. Nazis control the Eastern U.S. while the Japanese control the Western U.S.. Jews are killed, blacks enslaved, whites are second-class citizens in the west.

spoilers:
Western Black resistance fighters just blew-up major L.A. infrastructure hurting Japanese economics and control. Japanese general asks a white sycophant to explain black behavior. He explains that black people have been oppressed for centuries. And they always fought back against slavery, Jim Crow, etc. The Japanese are only the latest oppressor. Black people will NEVER stop fighting. Upon hearing this, the Japanese left the U.S.. Palestinians are like black people.

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The Arab world has been upset over Israel ever since it was established 75 years ago. Iran has has been upset over Israel ever since the Islamists took over in 1979. Video coverage of Israel hasn't changed anything in the Muslim world. If it became American policy after the Vietnam war to not televise its wars then how the hell do you explain the fact that the Gulf War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War were all televised?

It's time for real peace. The Muslim world's idea of peace is brutal Islamosupremacy throughout every inch of the Mideast. All the Israelis want is religious equality. The status quo in the Muslim world means that religious equality will absolutely suck for Muslims. The Israelis aren't going to allow anyone to crap on them and not complain and fight back.

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We're talking GLOBALLY.

" Gulf War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War "
Sanitized dribble. I grew up watching the evening Vietnam coverage which was traumatizing. Also, Vietnam had a draft instead of volunteer army.

2-state solution. Israel is on borrowed time since the U.S. won't be a world empire forever. When China rules, they will force Israel to share the land or give it all back to Palestinians.

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I'm well aware that Muslims are protesting against Israel globally. Muslims have been upset with Israel ever since it was established. You said that after the Vietnam War "it became U.S. policy to not televise its wars". You didn't say that it became U.S. policy to televise "sanitized dribble" from its wars. Your claim that TV coverage of recent wars is "sanitized dribble" compared to the Vietnam War is just your own subjective opinion and even if that were true I fail to see what U.S. "policy" would have to do with it. The U.S. Government didn't control the TV broadcasts of private news media from those wars. And a military draft is a very different thing from TV coverage.

You don't know that Israel necessarily needs U.S. support to survive and you have no reason to believe that if and when China "rules the world" that it would force Israel to do anything. Why the hell would China care about what happens in Israel?

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You know you're on the wrong side of history when you repeatedly defend the slaughter of children.

Subject is GLOBAL protests.

U.S. Government controls access for war reporters to be implanted with military units. After Vietnam, access was severely limited. You have zero knowledge about the subject. Go away!

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You're the one that's totally okay with the slaughter of children in Germany and Japan during World War II. If I'm on the wrong side of history then you're right there with me! If you're right about the war in Gaza then why do you have to exaggerate and lie about what Israel is doing? Why do you claim there's ethnic cleansing if the Palestinians are all still in Gaza? It wasn't genocide when the North killed at least a quarter million Southern whites during the Civil War. It wasn't genocide when the Allies killed 300,000-600,000 civilians in Germany and 300,000-900,000 civilians in Japan by bombing during World War II. How is it suddenly genocide now that Israel has killed just a small fraction of that?

I'm well aware that there are global protests by Muslims. Muslims have been upset with Israel ever since it was established. Not all news media in war zones are embedded with military forces. Many reporters go around war zones on their own. The military has no control over their news coverage. You have zero knowledge about the subject. Go away!

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Keelai,

You keep saying that Israel is committing genocide but you never explain your basis for that. It wasn't genocide when the North killed at least a quarter million Southern whites during the Civil War. It wasn't genocide when the Allies killed 300,000-600,000 civilians in Germany and 300,000-900,000 civilians in Japan by bombing during World War II. How is it suddenly genocide now that Israel has killed just a small fraction of that? Can you actually explain your math and logic behind your claim of genocide?

Pointing out that America doesn't support either side in the war in Sudan makes it sound like you don't care what the hell happens as long as it doesn't involve America. You believe genocide only really matters if America is involved. Anything and everything bad that happens in the rest of the world is okay with you as long as America isn't involved. Genocide by itself isn't a big deal to you.

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Protesting in America is pointless if America isn't involved, unless you are trying to make them get involved.

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So you're saying all those protestors don't really care about the Palestinians as an issue by itself? If America wasn't involved then it would be okay with them if Israel completely destroyed the Palestinians?

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No, I'm saying there would be no point in protesting. You can still care without being able to do anything to influence it.

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If America weren't involved then they would be protesting for America to get involved on behalf of the Palestinians

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Genocide ain't no thang no more.

Tell me who Taylor Swift is dating. That's important.

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I cant wait for Kelce to get his own breakup song.

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It doesn't matter. You have absolutely no chance with Taylor Swift. 💃🏻

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thats ok, I am hoping that Gemma calls me back.

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Why is it always deflection?

Holocaust, bla bla, World War 2, bla bla, Ukraine, bla bla, etc, etc...

I guess that's rhetorical as every functioning sane human being knows that deflection is the only "defence" left now.

The reason people hold Israel to higher accountability is that it's supposed to be an actual real, functioning democratic country. It's behaviour shames every one of us in the west. The indiscriminate slaughter it perpetrates - including of its own people if they're in the wrong place! - shames us all as OUR countries enable it.

That is easily understandable and why there are widespread protests.

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Don’t blame the entire USA for their actions. That is a DS conflict.

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I don't know what "DS conflict" means?

(I'm not American. Just pointing out that people in all western countries probably feel a degree of guilt for our countries collectively facilitating Israel's unchecked slaughter of innocent people)

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FootOfDavros,

Despite what you say, I as well as others have continued to defend Israel's war against Hamas on its merits. The fact of the matter is you don't know of any other way to destroy Hamas. The reality of defeating a terrorist group entrenched in a crowded urban area is very ugly:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/the-hell-of-urban-warfare

Did you know that the number of bombs Israel has dropped in Gaza is greater than the number of people killed? How is that possible in a place as crowded as Gaza if Israel is engaged in "indiscriminate slaughter"? It sounds like a very discriminatory bombing campaign to me.

Your argument for why people are protesting against Israel is absurd. It has nothing to do with a belief that Israel is supposed to be an actual, real, functioning democracy. You obscure the fact that the shrillest, angriest protestors are opposed to Israel's very existence. Those protestors at universities that xanthas is talking about are opposed to Israel's very existence. Their opposition to Israel is purely a matter of identity politics. That's why they're not protesting against what's happening in Sudan. There's no identity politics angle for them to be upset over. You forget that the very weekend of the Hamas attack that these protestors were celebrating the attack. People who really cared about democracy would NOT celebrate a huge terrorist attack. The people who actually do believe that Israel is a real, functioning democracy have been much more measured in their response to Israel's actions.

You make it sound like you don't really believe in human rights. For you, human rights only really matter in "actual real, functioning democratic" countries. You don't believe dictatorships have any obligation to respect human rights. If you were around during World War II you would be claiming that it didn't matter what Germany and Japan did because they were dictatorships. You would only be complaining about what the U.S. and U.K. did in World War II because they were supposed to be "actual real, functioning democratic" countries.

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1) The cause: Two warlords vying for power just doesn't elicit sympathy from people.

2)The complete lawlessness in Sudan: The chaos in that part or the world makes on the spot reporting from any Western new media outlet extremely hazardous. (If they are even given permission to be in the country)


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