Americans - who are you voting for and why?
Just curious.
shareI voted for Trump, because I love freedom, want prosperity and security for people, and reelecting Trump gives us a chance to save America.
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I will vote for Trump because I love America.
United we stand
With Biden we fall
I will vote for Biden because I want that narcissistic lying criminal and his despicable brood out of the White House
shareWhat laws has Trump broken exactly?
Why would you want to vote for a man who has made himself a career of making himself and his family very rich and cannot keep his hands off women AND children? He is a compulsive liar, an historical racist, a plagiarist and does not believe that you as a citizen and voter have a right to know what his views are?
His son is a drug addict who has been filming himself having sex with various relatives and does deals with Chinese spies to benefit his family.
Do you never stop once to question whether the person you are going to vote for is a better alternative?
Traitor Trump stole money from his Charities, had them shut down and court ordered to repay Charities 2 million dollars, had a fake University and had it shut down and sued by victims and they were awarded 25 million dollars. He shafted American banks so many times they won't loan him money anymore for years and he went to foreign Countries like Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. If he would turn over his tax returns I am sure you would see a huge conflict of financial interest. He promised a great new Healthcare Plan and infrastructure, but produced nothing, he deregulated all Eviromental agencies plus food inspections. He and Republicans gave big tax breaks and bailouts to Corporations. He imposed tariffs on China and bankrupted a lot of small farmers then had tax payers pay them over 30 Billion dollars that went mostly to Corporate farms. One thing Don the Con is good at is self aggrandizing and smoke and mirrors. I could write a book, but others already have. Trump is a pathological liar and narcissistic psychopath who is taking this Country down like any Fascist Dictator. I have followed Trump's scandals for over forty years and Nazi pod people like you have nothing to tell me.
shareSo again, why are you voting for Biden? Have you researched him and his family just as thoroughly?
share Biden’s criminal resume can’t compare to Trumps ... and I’m not even warmed up yet!
I don’t give a damn about Hunter, he’s not going to be in the White House.
So the incest of the son of a possible future President is ok in your book?
shareI'm certainly not as close with my dad as Hunter and Biden appear to be but making the leap to incest is a ridiculous stretch. But believe any source you want, conclude what you want and troll what you want. That's your right.
shareOh, you don't have to believe me - just do a little bit of research. The source was himself, his own laptops and 3 confiscated hard drives from Chinese spies and he has thousands of videos and photos that have been taken. There's plenty of the videos and photos online. He couldn't stop filming himself and the people he was with.
Taking drugs, with prostitutes, one that is supposed to be the actress that played Mulan, though they blurred out the face so you can't see it. The girl giving him the footjob is also supposed to be his niece as the partial match to the visable part of her face shows. These are only the ones that have made it online btw. There are many more that haven't done so far.
The incest allegation is bacuse people that have seen what hasn't been publicly released have said the niece is positively identified on there and she was underage at the time.
There's even text messages which confirm that he was prevented from having access to a young girl from her mother (believed to be the mother of the niece in question though again the name is blurred out) because of innapropriate sexual behaviour around her.
The allegation against Joe Biden comes from his daughter's own diary.
So your entire OP is disingenuous then. You claimed you were just curious, and then argued when they picked the candidate you didn't like, and then you spewed right-wing conspiracies to criticize that pick.
You are a dishonest person, which is a requirement for supporting Trump, especially online.
I am curious, which is why I asked. Is that a crime? Where was I dishonest?
What I think of the candidates is irrelevant as I am not American and not voting so why are you losing your shit because I asked Americans who they were voting for and why? Am I not allowed to have an opinion of my own?
I could have asked if Americans preferred tea or coffee and why. Would you have gone nuts and insulted me if I had said I prefer coffee because...?
Btw, everything I said about Biden and his son is true and not a conspiracy.
You weren't curious. You created the thread to disagree with people who supported Biden. That's my point.
"Why would you want to vote for a man who has made himself a career of making himself and his family very rich and cannot keep his hands off women AND children?"
That's not a question based on fact. That's misinformation combined with hearsay that you get from OANN and Alex Jones. Not even Fox News goes that far.
You are a fraud.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/senate_salaries.htm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/10/22/how-the-bidens-earned-167-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/
"After leaving the Obama Administration, former vice president Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, made more money in 2017 than in the previous 19 years combined."
The msm is currently doing their damndest to cover up the dodgy dealings of the Biden family, regarding the Ukraine and China (and more), but it's all documented and witnesses are coming forward to state it is true.
This is NOT normal behaviour so don't pretend it is -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmw6UUAwPfA
His own daughter thinks he abused her and was made to take showers with him.
In 2017, Joe Biden was a civilian who was free to engage in any business ventures he chose. Trump is doing it while president.
He's an old ass politician from the era when politicians were handsy and kissing babies. His mistake is not changing with the times.
Seriously, you have a youtube channel with an anti-Biden montage on it, and you're on here pretending to be curious.
You are a joke. You are here to promote your youtube channel that is just as much of a failure as Tara Reade's claims against Biden.
He was doing dodgy dealing while he was Vice President.
Show me another old politician who can't keep his hands off women and children. just one who touches them up the same way.
Are you ignoring his own daughter and what she wrote about him in her diary?
Biden is from the era of politicians where it was commonplace to kiss babies. Whenever he puts his hands on a girl's shoulders and "sniffs her hair" he's whispering some old timey words of encouragement spiel in her ear to try to make himself appear more likeable just like an old timey politician.
That's what he did in the 90s with Tara Reade. He put his hands on her shoulders which made her uncomfortable because the times had changed and that was now considered a violation of personal space. The problem with Biden is the same it's always been. He's an old man.
Assuming he took a shower with his daughter, I don't care because showers are not inherently sexual.
Harping on it the way you are doing is only proving you are more interested in conspiracy theories than you are facts.
Kissing babies? It was more than that. How about when he tweaked the nipple of the little girl and put his hands on the breasts of Chelsea Clinton? Are you going to excuse that behaviour too?
His daughter wrote that she was creeped out by the showers she was made to take with him and believes he abused her. But we shouldn't believe her or care that she and others, like Tara Reade (who claimed he shoved his fingers in her btw), were molested by him because, well, it's just Joe, who carried on touching them up even after he was told not to because of the bad optics for him (totally ignoring that it is molestation).
Stop making excuses for a lifelong sexual predator. I'm actually interested in stopping sexual abusers - why aren't you?
"How about when he tweaked the nipple of the little girl"
Which little girl? Show me.
"and put his hands on the breasts of Chelsea Clinton?"
Again, show me.
"Stop making excuses for a lifelong sexual predator. I'm actually interested in stopping sexual abusers - why aren't you?"
Because I know what real sexual abuse is. You sure don't seem to be interested in Trump's connection with Jeffrey Epstein. You aren't interested in Trump's checkered past of walking in on underage girls undressing when he hosted Miss Teen pageants. You aren't interested in Trump's comments about how fuckable Michael Cohen's ten year old daughter was. Not to mention all the comments Trump has made about wanting to date his own daughter.
But you sure have a lot to say about Biden putting his hands on girls' shoulders. You aren't an honest actor. Your OP is a sham, as is your youtube channel.
Biden tweaking little girl's nipple - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GCTsHCDBkI&ab_channel=JohnathanPessetti
Biden with his hands on Chelsea Clinton's breasts at 02:17- https://youtu.be/tmw6UUAwPfA?t=137
Trump's only connection to Epstein is that he visited Mar A Largo several times until Trump banned him because he was caught undressing the underage daughter of a friend of his. He flew on Epstein's plane once from one city to another in the company of several other people. He never visited the island (unlike Bill Clinton who visited it many times).
It has always been common for people involved in the production of pageants and modelling shows to go into the dressing rooms. Does it make it right or protect the privacy of the girls? No, but thankfully we can change scenarios like that now.
So as you requested, I provided you with proof that Biden does more than just put his hands on shoulders as you keep insisting is all he does. If you actually watched the compilation video I created you would see that, but you are in denial that he is a creepy pervert and won't admit that he is because that is what the evidence clearly shows.
His son has been found to have been abusing female family members and filming it. He possibly may have been a victim himself and carried on the 'family tradition'. His daughter thinks he abused her too. These are real things that you can see with your own eyes and not hearsay.
You’re insane
shareInsane is not believing the proof in front of your eyes.
You are in denial about what a fucked up and incestuous family the Biden's are. His son was even uploading his videos to Pornhub and his niece (and possibly his own daughter) have been identified in the videos. Timestamps show that the niece was 14 at the time also.
Insane is turning a blind eye to that.
Certifiably insane
shareThere's a name for people like you, who refuse to accept it even when there is proof of abuse. They are called 'enablers' and it's why the abuse of many children to this day still continues.
shareI looked at both of clips. That is the stupidest example of groping I've ever seen. Both videos don't even take it seriously. They meme it up because it's nonsense.
shareYou mean you feel setup? It was a bogus question to begin with? You mean like how all the MSM treat an interview with Trump?
But that's okay, because it's Trump, right? It's okay to start on a false pretense and then ask probing questions to your response, yes? I find your response hypocritical. But then again, what else is new, eh white guilt?
BTW, the question you found not based on fact, is constantly done to Trump and yet you not only continue the false narrative, you glom onto it. Russian bounties is not fact. The Atlantic article from anonymous sources isn't fact. Russia collusion isn't fact and yet you personally have further each of those false narratives. Hypocrite, aren't ya?
If the OP is a fraud, then so are you.
Arguing with the Bloviator Club is pointless, they will just attack you with insults ad nauseam, and never address the issue.
shareThank you for pointing this out.
shareThis guy is a complete joke. He's promoting anti-Biden videos from his own youtube channel.
shareWhat a jackass. He'll be gone after Tuesday, like the majority of TrumpTrolls.
shareI'm not a guy and there's only one anti-Biden video I made which is a compilation of him touching up women and children because people need to be aware he is a molester and not make excuses for him.
He's still doing it btw and even joked about it once...
https://youtu.be/xzKpYD534ig
What sick fuck jokes about having permission to touch kids after being called out for doing so?
Ultrav exactly. Disingenuous OP who thinks pushing false conspiracies and watching those who care about truth react in disgust is hilarious. Right out of Jason Wohl's playbook. I don't wish ill of all Trump supporters, I have friends that voted for him but the Jason Wohl"s of this world must die.
shareBiden for me and my brother (that's two votes from Florida, anyway)
shareWhy?
shareIf you are curious, how come you haven't asked one person voting for Trump 'why ?' like you are to the Biden voters ?
Why haven't you mentioned the fact that none of Trump's eldest children can run a charity again, because they were caught stealing from their charities - starting with stealing from children with cancer ?
Why haven't you asked the Trump voters why they would want an impeached president back in the Oval Office? Why haven't you asked the Trump voters why they are voting for a man whose administration has been riddled with criminal investigations, sentencing and jail just during the first term of his presidency ?
Looks like you're not too curious at all. Or you have selective 'Biden' curiosity.
Because the people who replied to say why they were voting Trump said why they were voting for him whereas the Biden voters haven't said why they are voting for Biden - they said why they are not voting for Trump instead. I wanted to know why they would vote for someone as demonstrably reprehensible as Biden for the reasons I stated.
From what I understand, it was Trump's campaign, and not Trump himself, that misused the money, which was paid back.
Trump isn't impeached btw as it was thrown out in the Senate on February 5.
1. Trump was indeed impeached by the House. He's the first elected President to be impeached in his first term. He's an impeached President, no matter what he tells you to believe.
2. You understood wrong - his children are not even allowed to sneeze near a charity, never mind run one because of the money they stole from them in their criminal enterprise.
3. Yatzo wrote a detailed essay on why he's voting for Biden and you still asked 'why'. The Trump voters answered with cliches, and you didn't dig deeper.
4. Why haven't you asked the Trump voters why they would want an impeached president back in the Oval Office? Why haven't you asked the Trump voters why they are voting for a man whose administration has been riddled with criminal investigations, sentencing and jail just during the first term of his presidency ?
You're not too curious.
1. Yes, the House impeached him but the final say was not theirs - it was the Senate's and they acquitted him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Donald_Trump#Acquittal
Under the U.S. Constitution, a two-thirds majority of the Senate is required to convict the president. The possible penalties are the removal from office and disqualification from holding office in the future.[192][193][185] On February 5, 2020, the Senate acquitted Trump on both counts.
2. That's a lie and a distortion of the court case.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/social-posts-distort-facts-on-trump-charities/
3. Yatzo said why they were not voting for Trump, not why they were voting for Biden.
4. Again, Trump is NOT impeached as he was acquitted on both counts. I imagine they are already aware of the political motivation against those who were targetted in his administration, which includes the FBI lying and changing documents to try and convict an innocent person, defence team withholding evidence and working with the prosecution and jailing for things that Dems also did but were never prosecuted for. Totally biased judges who are pulling every trick in the book to convict a man who even the prosecution say is innocent.
1. Funny how the House impeached him for something Trump said he didn't do, which is dig up Ukrainian dirt on Biden, and then decided this past month to release Ukrainian dirt on Biden. Ahh, but Mitch McConnell's Senate refused to have witnesses and acquitted him, so it's all good then, right?
2. Trump's whole family is capitalizing on his presidency, which is a violation of the emoluments clause. Jimmy Carter wasn't even allowed to have a peanut farm while president. He had to put it in a blind trust. Trump has his family running his charities which they withdraw from regularly, and they also run his properties which is the opposite of a blind trust.
3. Yatzo said he was voting for Biden to get rid of Trump. That's a legitimate reason to vote for someone.
4. Trump was successfully impeached by the House. He was unsuccessfully impeached by the Senate which as noted above, refused to have people like Bolton testify. But you don't care about that.
So why do Republicans consider Clinton impeached, when he was acquitted by the Senate? Or do you / they consider Clinton not impeached any longer ? Funny how that works.
shareCan't speak for Republicans as I am not one but I don't consider Bill Clinton impeached for the same reason I stated earlier. Both were acquitted by the Senate, therefore both are not impeached.
shareTrump. Because of Peace and Policy.
shareTrump, because I'm for low taxes, limited government, a secured border, and I'm not for identity politics, rioting, looting and wealth redistribution. Also Biden has way too many scandals and is way too corrupt. Sadly though I have a feeling America will be dumb enough this year to elect the son of a bitch.
shareI'm not voting for Joe Biden because he is responsible for putting 2 generations of black men in prison for smoking a joint.
shareHe doesn't have a great love for the black community. Loves their votes though.
shareThe Central Park five ring a bell?
Trump wanted five innocent black boys executed for a crime they were exonerated from after serving 20 years in prison
Given the circumstances at the time (that they had confessed to the crime and had been identified by other gang members), I am pretty sure that Trump was not the only person who felt that way. Many people were angry at the gangs attacking people in the park and especially so given the viciousness of the rape and beating of the girl who almost died.
Hindsight is always a great thing to throw around once facts are known many years later.
You are implying that Trump wanted them executed only because they were black and not because he believed they were vicious thugs and rapists who had been terrorising people in the park.
“ Hindsight is always a great thing to throw around once facts are known many years late”
That’s rich...,
He should have acknowledged this years later, but his huge ego won’t except errors.
Btw, did you watch the video of their confession?
That was a brutal police beat down on very young scared boys