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Let's talk "Obamagate" !


Remember when the Trumptards and Trump were trying to make "Obamagate" stick to the wall a few weeks ago, and nothing happened? LOL! Let's revisit "Obamagate", and see what they really were so upset about...

"Obamagate" (Jan 20, 2009 - Jan 20, 2017):

11.6+ million jobs added
15+ million more Americans got healthcare, many for the first time ever
Defeated Ebola and H1N1 pandemics
S&P Index rose 166%
Saved the American auto industry
Wind and Solar power increased by 369%
Won the Nobel Peace Prize
0 Impeachments
0 Indictments

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Why lie?

It's just a few people on a movie board.

Why lie?

Is it in your DNA?

Are you a liar?

Why lie?

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Which is the lie ? Do point it out for us. And please back it up with true facts - not 'alternate facts' which Kellyanne Conway likes to boast about. "Alternate facts" only works on the brain-dead Trumpers and FOX viewers.

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DoggieDump isn’t a happy camper unless he lies. It’s the only way he can exist. There’s one thing worse than a liar...it’s a liar who believes his own lies.

From Project 21 Black Leadership Program

Fact: ”05 NOV 2019 LIBERALS IGNORED HIGH BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT UNDER OBAMA, WON’T CELEBRATE RECORD LOWS UNDER TRUMP”

Last week, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics posted the lowest overall black unemployment figure ever recorded at 5.4 percent.

According to a Project 21 analysis, reported in a press release last week after the jobs report was released, this was the sixth record-low black unemployment rate achieved during the Trump presidency. The previous lowest rate – 7.4 percent – was achieved at the end of the Clinton administration in December 2000.

In extensive remarks, excerpted for the release, Project 21 member Derryck Green addressed the racial allegations that have been made against President Trump (which Project 21 Co-Chairman Horace Cooper often calls the “weirdest” anti-black behavior) despite the Trump administration’s policies having been so helpful to black economic progress.

The economic policies of our first black president exacerbated black unemployment during the recession, helping black unemployment to reach or exceed 16 percent on 11 occasions. Obama Administration officials told us that high national unemployment, high black unemployment and a depressed economic environment in which businesses hired fewer employees because people stopped looking for work was the “new normal.”

But, since 2016, black unemployment has significantly and consistently declined. Under President Trump, black unemployment reached an all-time low on several occasions. Black unemployment dropped below six percent for the first time in May 2017. Twice this year – in August and September – black unemployment dropped and held steady at 5.5 percent. In October, black unemployment is 5.4 percent – the lowest rate ever recorded.


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Still waiting...

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Obama was also able to walk down slippery steep ramps all by himself.

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Obama is twenty years younger. I invite you to watch the video of him working out. Wimpiest workout I have ever seen a man do. Michelle Obama is twice as strong as wimpy Barack.

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At least he tries

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Let's take a look at Trump's workout from 20 years ago, when he was Obama's age.

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You lie!

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11.6+ million jobs added - he was given a bottomed out economy, nowhere else to go but up
15+ million more Americans got healthcare, many for the first time ever - at the cost of millions of Americans who were forced to lose their HC and many tens of millions more who were forced to pay much more for less coverage
Defeated Ebola and H1N1 pandemics LOL
S&P Index rose 166% he was given an economy with nowhere to go but up and he still underperformed
Saved the American auto industry - it went ahead with exactly the same bankruptcy protections they wanted to do in the first place, Obama did not save them, they had to save themselves by reorganizing their assets and liabilities
Wind and Solar power increased by 369% - And yet most of those assets Obama used taxpayer funds to purchase ended up in China and they paid pennies on the dollar for it, that means we lost hundreds of millions
Won the Nobel Peace Prize LOL
0 Impeachments yes, but he should have been impeached over his use of the IRS and then Benghazi
0 Indictments he was the first black president and no one could ever allow him to be a failure but his entire presidency was riddled with corruption and lies

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He should have been impeached over DACA and other edicts he forced by fiat! He became America’s First Black King...or so he thought with ”I have a pen and I have a phone!

He cost millions to lose their health insurance! He should have been impeached for that & a bucket of tar dumped on the forked tongue Justice John Roberts!

After Ocare passed, our next premium total for our retirement insurance plus Medicare went from about $900.00 total to $2100.00!! Of course we had to drop the retirement package with Cigna, health, dental, vision & meds! I had to scramble to find separate policies from each. I currently don’t have a drug plan as the deductible skyrocketed, we dropped my husband’s dental as he was having too many issues with the skin cancer. He became too tired and was just existing. We had to pay out of pocket for expensive drugs for him because the VA wouldn’t pay for them.

Yeah, Obamagate did wonders for us and millions of others!

Remember the Cash for Clunkers fiasco? A lot of good used cars were destroyed! Then we had the solar energy boondoggle! Obama was one of the worst presidents ever to occupy the Oval Office. Biden will be worse. BTW, I would never mock Biden with his advancing age like some asshole has done over Trump walking carefully down a ramp. Damn, I despise that narcissist poster! He’s going to get his due. I wish nothing but the worse for him! Hope he falls flat on his ass when and if he reaches Biden’s & Trump’s age! My husband fell 3 weeks ago and now he’s dead!

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"11.6+ million jobs added - he was given a bottomed out economy, nowhere else to go but up"

Wrong again trev. It went down from May 2008 until October 2009. After October 2009 is when we got steady economic recovery after steady economic recovery. By the time January 2017 came, everything was stable. Yet all we hear from Trump is how he fixed the economy.

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Obama had nowhere to go but up. It took a while for the economy to recover because Obama has no clue how the economy works. That's why Trump was able to immediately fix the economy while Obama was in search of a magic wand.

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It was fixed in Obama's first term. Obama's second term was all economic stability. Trump merely continued an economy that was on autopilot. while patting himself on the back for making his wealthy buddies wealthier. Trump's tax cuts didn't go toward the middle class or the poor. They went to those at the top and raised the debt. How did he get away with that? Obama's stable economy.

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Continued? The economy took off under Trump like we have never seen it. Ever.

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You are brainwashed. The middle class aren't doing better than they were in 2016. Trump gave tax cuts for the rich, and a trade war with China for everyone else.

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The economy had nowhere to go but up - under Trump, since Obama saved the economy and stabilized it in his second term. He handed Trump a successful economy - it took Trump only three years to destroy it.

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A lie. When Trump won the leading economist Paul Krugman said the economy would tank under Trump immediately. It did the reverse.

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It took 36 months - that's immediately compared to the last time a solid economy tanked under a new (Republican) president - it took W Bush into the second half of his second term to tank the economy. So Trump tanked it immediately within 3 years. Krugman was correct.

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It took CHINA and then Democrats rioting and looting. That's what it took.

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It took 36 months. Period. It took Dubya 72 months. Trump crashed our economy in half the time Dubya did. Another one of his accomplishments.

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Trump didn't crash anything. China did. And you helped them with your rioting. You do realize that everything you have right now, all the security, is going away. I live in a remote place so it won't affect me but most people in America will lose security thanks to Democrats. A lot of things will go away now. Some may take more time but it will happen. I wonder how long before China starts taking over other places. Eventually the US. Thanks to Democrats.

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Trump gets away with so much because Trumpers give him a pass on everything. They credit him with accomplishments which he didn't achieve, and never hold him accountable for the destruction of America (and it's economy and it's democracy) which he has done. It's disgraceful.

As for 'rioting', once again Trumpers mix up 'protesters' with 'rioters'. The rioting you mention was done equally by Trumpers - neoNazis and Boogaloo Bois, to be exact. It's something Trumpers don't want to acknowledge.

Democratic peaceful protesters have made sweeping changes to police departments across the country by doing peaceful protests outside, with masks on.

Trumpers protested in state capitols armed with rifles and confederate flags (and not one Trumper blinked at that) and no protection from COVID to demand their states open up earlier than suggested by the CDC. Now we have a surge in COVID cases in those states thanks to those Trump morons. Good going Trumpers ! They're killing Americans one by one.

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You don't really believe what you post, do you ? If you do , you're truly embarrassing yourself on a worldwide forum.

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I believe it because it is the truth. Obama even said that manufacturing jobs would never come back. Trump immediately proved him wrong. That is a fact.

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So you believe in 'alternate truth' and 'alternate facts' - which Kellyanne Conway admitted in Trump's first month that those are exactly what this administration goes by?

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There is video of Obama saying it. You don't believe him?

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I believe you subscribe to alternate facts and alternate truths, like Kellyanne said Trumpers would.

Here's a report on Trump's "myth of manufacturing jobs" from earlier this year (before the COVID pandemic). These are the facts and truth - not the alternate facts, and not the alternate truth:

"Last week, the Federal Reserve reported that U.S. manufacturing was in a recession for all of 2019. This wasn't slow growth; the sector actually became smaller. The slowdown was relatively mild, with factory production shrinking by about 1.3 percent. But it was the worst performance since 2015, the year that Trump started his presidential campaign. Under Trump, the manufacturing economy has returned to the Obama era."


https://reason.com/2020/01/22/trump-campaigned-on-saving-factory-jobs-but-u-s-manufacturing-just-went-through-a-year-long-recession/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/economy/manufacturing-jobs/index.html

https://www.axios.com/trump-tariffs-manufacturing-job-losses-6c4841de-0c01-4c4f-99c5-6e2bf26d670e.html


Trump said he'd rebuild manufacturing. Now it's in decline ...www.washingtonpost.com › business › 2019/09/05 › tru...

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I believe you are overlooking the China virus.

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You're of the wrong belief. All of the articles which I posted above are before the spread of COVID19. The dates are right in the links.

Trumpers really need to hold Trump accountable for all the wrong he did and for destroying this country.

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You mean the Trump virus. it was the Chinese virus until Trump called it a hoax.

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No, China released it, lied about it. Not Trump. You hate Trump so much you would let China get away with lying about a virus that has killed over 400,000 people.

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This means you don't agree with Trump that its all a worldwide hoax to ruin his chances of re-election ?

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https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/2_whamond.jpg?itok=ySfDakb5

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I posted this before, but it’s worth it to keep drilling it into someone’s head:

Look at the poverty level under Obama the King vs under Trump. Quite a difference. Blacks were doing much better under Trump before Covid 19.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/205059/percentage-of-poor-black-families--in-the-us/

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No need to drill, I've heard this enough from Trump. Every given opportunity. "The black community loves me and I've done more for them than any other president..." It's odd because I get the distinct feeling he has no affinity with the black community whatsoever and sees them more as a problem to deal with than an important part of the American social fabric.

It's not just this issue though, Trump is constantly stressing how he is the best president ever and it always makes me wonder who he is trying to convince, the public or himself.

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I think himself. He is a narcissist.

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Give a listen to this then, tim74. It's from less than a week ago. Feel free to skip through the parts where Trump is talking. But really listen to what these black Americans think about race relations that you won't hear on the mainstream media.

https://youtu.be/FQ3YkWecvCk

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Trump has done more for the Black community than Abraham Lincoln - he told this to FOX's Harris Faulkner himself last week, and she almost choked on her tongue.

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He's got to go!

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Huh, oddly enough all of his crimes are well documented in the intelligence files and testimonials of the key officials trying to nail Trump on that Russia Hoax.

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So if he's guilty of 'all of his crimes' why is he a free man today ? Why hasn't Trump and his buddy Barr arrested him already if he's a criminal, as you suggest ?

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Are you that naive? He's an ex-President and will never see the inside of a cell specifically because Presidential power leaves more than enough wiggle room to argue against any charges. Instead they'll get the lower level guys like Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, and say they all went rogue because as Susan Rice told us in the e-mail to herself "He wants it by the book" right?

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I think you need to do a little research on Obamagate, or perhaps take a class in reading comprehension. Just to clear things up for you, Obamagate has to do with the fact that Pres. Obama may very well be the first POTUS in history who intentionally tried to disrupt that which the United States of America has been successfully participating in for well over 200 years; the peaceful transfer of power from one leader to another. Pres. Obama weaponized the CIA, the FBI and the DOJ in an effort to destroy or seriously impede his successor. THAT has never been done before in the history of the United States. And THAT is what "Obamagate" is all about.

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Hillary’s emails?

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Try dealing in real facts next time - not alternate truth and conspiracy theories.

What you're learning from OAN, FOX, InfoWars, The Federalist, Daily Stormer, Daily Caller, etc. is doing severe damage to your sense of reality.

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One of my favorite Obama non-scandals was "Latte-gate." The one where he walked off a helicopter holding a coffee using the same arm to salute the marine standing guard outside.

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Or when he wore a tan suit jacket ! LOL! Republicans were up in arms over that travesty - they wanted to impeach him.

Now Trump has pissed all over the Constitution on a daily basis, and Republicans are fine with that.

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Obama was an inspirational President for America, but if we are going
to have to wait for black people to become as "white" as Obama before
they get equal rights it's never going to happen. Obama was not a
good President. If I had to grade Obama I'd give him an absolute
middle C because he is the average that should accept. Trump is around
an F. W would be a D-. Clinton would be a solid D+. Bush I would be
a D, and Reagan would be an F+.

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