since when are those jetpacks so powerful?
flying through space at the same speed as the ships??
aren't they the same jetpacks as boba fett had?
Yeah, the jetpacks in the last episodes of the season went overkill. The fuel of those packs felt like they lasted longer than when they went to rescue the boy from the Raptor. Of course they could've swapped packs on the Gauntlet's. Probably about the same amount of fuel.
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shareIt was especially jarring, because a couple of episodes back they made a point of the fuel issue, as the Mandos chased the monster and had to drop out due to fuel exhaustion one by one.
And then a guy just gets up and flies all the way to an orbiting spaceship? With the same amount of fuel? WHAT?
Anyways, the writers "kinda forgot" the events of that episode. On to the next issue: power.
No, a jetpack like that absolutely cannot achieve escape velocity. And even if it could, it's like strapping a Saturn V on the back of a human - without some form of dampening, the g-force would cream the guy inside the beskar suit - or at the very least, he would be unconscious, which is also someti
"But whatever this is space fantasy, just enoy the ride, don't try to think on these issues too much..."
All movies, even space fantasy ones creates a universe. And that universe has rules and internal consistency, and they operate on a basis of "reality, unless noted". So for example - Luke Skywalker looks like a human, so he must have the same strengths and weaknesses as us, regular humans on Earth. Later, he learns to master the Force, so that makes him a bit different, but still - he is fundamentally human.
We observe many spaceships operating on faster than light speeds. Those are used regularly by the characters in universe, so it is presented as part of the universe. Thus, the viewer can accept their existence.
We see the Mandos looking like humans. So they must have the same strengths and weaknesses as humans on Earth. Right? And then they have jetpacks and beskar armor. Beskar is like really tough, so that gives them very specific abilities (like withstanding shots from blasters), and with the jetpacks they can fly. But it's never established why one of them would be able to magically fly way beyond the previously established fuel capacity of his 'pack. Or how that jetpack is capable of flying up all the way into space. And how the guy inside would be able to withstand the G-forces.
It wouldn't take much to fix these problems. Have one of the party (that guy) wear a supplementary fuel pack, preparing for the scenario in which he needs to get back to the ship. And have him wear a special spaceworthy motion dampening suit, so he can withstand the G-forces. Or establish that all the standard beskar suits have such technology. This would have taken 30 seconds of screentime, and two sentences. But the writers could not be bothered...
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shareWe don't know that there was the same amount of fuel available during those two scenes. Maybe there was a fuel shortage at the cave hideout and everyone was running on empty, but later, of course everyone would bring as much fuel as it was possible to carry, when starting a battle for a planet.
And seriously, dude, these things really ARE more fun when you engage your willing suspension of disbelief!
But if you won't, at least address my point about the jetpacks causing 3rd degree ass burns.
I can see where our frame of reference differs, in terms of "like reality, unless noted" - and that is fine.
Anyways, here is the counter for the 3rd degree burns: when designing a device / solution, the designer pays attention to usability and user safety - this goes without saying, unless the plot emphasizes, that something is a prototype. So for example a ship with hyperdrive in Star Wars obviously has a g-force dampening system as well, otherwise upon first using the drive, everyone would be creamed inside. A lightsaber's on/off switch is on the side, and not on the top - otherwise it would instantly damage the hand of the user (although... designing a lightsaber like that would be a great way to make it only usable for Force users who are able to turn it on via telekinesis - LOL)
So the Mando jetpack is obviously designed to provide the ability for the user to fly around using it. So the thrusters must be aligned in a way as to avoid damaging the user. Or a heat resistant material is used on the ass area. This goes without saying, and it should not really be established by the writers. The Mandos are obviously using it almost every day - therefore it is designed to avoid burning their asses. Almost all characters have hyperdrive in their ships, they are using it every day, so obviously a dampening system is also included, as evidenced by them not being instantly creamed. Simple as that.
But the fuel issue cannot be concluded this easily - as they made a separate point about them running out of fuel in a previous episode. Had they not done that, the viewer might be able to accept that ok, for ther purposes of the plot, they always have the right amount of fuel. But if you highlight that they don't... then the viewer will think of it later, and you need to address it. This is why it's not the same as the above examples.
And yes, you could argue, that the suits must have a dampening system, and yes, I think I can let go of that point - as a couple episodes earlier they showed that the suits are generally space worthy - so I give that to the writers - it was set up, albeit poorly.
However, the jetpack providing enough thrust to reach escape velocity seemed a bit of a stretch, still.
So you're willing to harp on the question of fuel tank levels, which can be assumed to vary from time to time, but when asked about something that doesn't really interest you - you pull invisible dampening fields out of your ass? I'm so disappointed!
Because wouldn't a dampening field that protected the butt (and legs and feet) from the heat of the jetpack engines also interfere with the jetpack's steering? Seriously, they seem to be very simple mechanisms, they direct the flyer in a direction away from where the hot end of the jetpack is pointed. So wouldn't something that blocked the force from the jetpack in one direction necessarily affect the steering???
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, so let me clarify - the dampening field is not for protecting the user's butt against the heat, the dampening field is to dampen the G-forces that are affecting the user during sudden direction changes, or when reaching escape velocity of a planet.
I suggested a simple heat shield or heat resistant material for protecting the user's butt. It can be as simple as a double walled section in the armor, so the air between the two walls insulate - like a thermos, or insulated bottle that keeps your soft drink cold in the summer heat or your coffee warm in the winter.
So you're willing to harp on the question of fuel tank levels, which can be assumed to vary from time to time
... but this whole issue is not about the technical details, you know, it's about writing consistency. The writers brought up the fuel issue a few episodes back from a scene where someone flies into space to meet a spaceship in orbit. Had they not included that fuel exhaustion scene, I wouldn't be nitpicking about it. But they did - and then failed to handle the situation correctly. That's what the issue is.
Since when do those jetpacks not cause 3rd degree burns on the ass?
Yeah. So really, all there is to say about questions like that is "Shut up and enjoy the TV show".
I addressed your "shut up and enjoy" counterclaim here:
https://moviechat.org/tt8111088/The-Mandalorian/6441a0ff098ebc2ca6ba6bcf/since-when-are-those-jetpacks-so-powerful?reply=644a1292b43cdc49f581819a
I guess to be fair, even Boba’s jet pack had silliness at the worst possible time and shot him into the side of the sail barge just cause half-blind Han wacked it with a stick.
shareThis raises an interesting question:-
Is technology stagnant in Star Wars?
As we know, they have failed to discover fusion / fission nuclear bomb technology. And now there is an expectation that these backpacks will be exactly the same as they were decades before.
Heck, if I was to put my current mobile phone up against the one I had 5 years ago, I'd probably laugh, yet we expect the boffins of Star Wars to be next to completely useless...