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Pepsi had a chance to play this smart / cool, but they botched it with their disgusting reaction
Jake's plan made no sense!
A simple reason why i don't believe the "Bishop did it" theory
This series is completely unnecessary and did not have an actual story to tell
Had potential, but goes downhill in the second half
This movie missed every opportunity to surprise the audience
The Theatrical Cut is superior and is the definitive version of this movie
No identity for this show, just a mishmash of nostalgia and a very thin plotline
Unbelievable displays of carelessness and laziness by George Lucas
WHERE IS THE ENDING??? - and other problems with this movie
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<i>I find that curious that in a pretty empty hospital where they could have used any OR they still followed protocol of working on Ellie in the specific one.</i>
Yes, it is odd, from our - outside - perspective, as sitting in front of the TV, watching a show.
However, in universe, I think I can provide you two reasons for why the Fireflies / team of doctors did it that way.
First is practical. As damaged as the hospital is, the procedure they are about to perform is dependent on specific medical equipment. They might be missing or damaged, but either way the best chance to find at least some of the necessary stuff is at that particular location inside the hospital.
The second reason is psychological. Things were not normal in the last 23 years for the main characters. So at every single chance they get, they try to bring normalcy into their daily lives. That includes respecting what remains "from before". The before-people, who designed the hospital, assigned an area to preform surgeries on children. So they will use that, because that shows respect towards the past and also psychologically it comforts them to do it that way. It gives them hope that things could be normal again sometime. That is how I would explain it. And this second point adds the irony that they are outright murdering a child tryting to bring back the world to normal...
I think it is pretty clear that the mask was malfunctioning. It looks weird, because when Arnie takes it off (awesome effect as the rows are sliding apart then slide back to reform the head!) he has his "ready for anything" face already, and not the "I'm so confused, I did not anticipate this" face.
But it makes sense. The mask is doing god knows what on the outside because of the malfunction, but Quaid is inside, and he has more than enough time to get his bearings. And when he does, he thinks quick on his feet - given the situation -, decides to take it off and activate self-destruct.
As for the "Get ready for a surprise" line is from a filmmaking perspective a joke, but in-universe it can be explained as the programmers having fun. In some situations, they expected the user to use the mask as a weapon, this is why they included the self-destruction function in the first place. And they wanted to spice it up somehow so they had the mask utter this line prior to the explosion, just for fun.
I think that was her frustration talking. After all she was grilled for hours and hours, she had to relive and retell her story again and again and again - which is bad enough, but the suits were constantly harrassing her about it. So I think it's understandable, given what she was going through.
Speculation: Had Van Leuwen agreed, she would have been taken aback a bit, and then would have quickly regained her composure. And would have immediately given specific instructions. Like don't go into the derelict, just inspect it from the outside, take a lot of explosives, set them up outside, then remotely activate... Then nuke the site from orbit... And of course film the whole thing and bring the footage to her as proof so she can finally sleep well.
That's how I see that moment. Apart from setting up the surprise for the audience that there is a colony there already of course.
You looked it up? Thanks for this!
And yes, I guess the suits wanted to cram one more showing into the day, so some scenes had to go...
You would be right, if this was the first part of the story. But this is a sequel - and Jake already realized he could not run away in the first movie.
On top of that, given their history with Quaritch, no one in his right mind could think Q will not chase after them.
But I'll tell you what would have made sense. What if only the kids are sent to the water tribe, allowing Jake and Neytiri to fight themselves (with the tree tribe), and knowing they are safe and protected there. Or at least float this idea, then have Neytiri shut it down, saying that the family should stay together. That would have been a more sensible plot, since it's just out of character for Jake to try to hide and expect the humans giving up - leaving them alone.
Let me try a bump... thoughts?
Dude, I was 14 when I saw TPM. And I disliked it very strongly, and AOTC and ROTS were not much better, just because I saw them in my late teens.
So I am the living rebuttal of your argument.
Ace_Spade is right - age does not matter. You can have any opinion about any movie at any age.
Also I would add that Morpheus was just interrogated and drugged out of his mind (from the looks of it), which did a number on his... mind. Which is the one thing he needed for that jump. Of course he was taken by surprise because of that bullet. Of course he could not react and make the jump with his mind already foggy from the agents doing god knows what to him during their questioning... so I guess that about explains it.
Your comment would make sense if the intention of the creators would have been "show off the tech" with that final space battle scene.
But it wasn't. It was "let's put our heroes in a dramatic situation, requiring their skills to overcome the threat of the Death Star against impossible odds."
So yeah, artistic licence and whatnot. Yes, from a tech standpoint, dogfighting makes no sense. Also, even during dogfights, in space the fighters would not be oriented always "right side up" (as "up" is meaningless in space anyways). But for dramatic purposes, the scene was designed this way. And audiences will not take serious issue with this, since the intention of the movie is to tell a story about the world and about the characters. Tech is secondary in that regard, and come on - Star Wars is clearly not a "hard SF" movie. There is no basis upon which you could expect realistic depiction of any details about tech.
Yes, this makes it convenient for the creators to handle issues in the plot. Yes, sometimes tech acts like "magic" - hyperspeed travel was invented for characters not to age 30+ years before they get to the next planet / moon / space station. You are not supposed to know exactly how it works.
I am very much a nitpicking type of person - when it makes sense to nitpick. But in Star Wars, especially in the OT, you need to soak in the atmosphere, the world building, the characters and just go with the flow. SW is about experience and not about this tech details. So normally, in a different movie, I would be on your side. But here, I am not. Yes, SW77 gets a pass. But on account of it being a well crafted, well written fantasy experience, as far off from a hard SF movie as it gets.
<i>The only issue remaining is how two xenomorph eggs made it onto the Sulaco.</i>
That is pretty much a fundamental issue, isn't it? But anyways, there were never "two" eggs, there was always only one egg and one fachugger... how did it impregnate both Ripley and an Ox (in the Assembly cut) then? Well as stupid as it sounds, a new facehugger, a "super facehugger" was invented for just this reason. This fella can impregnate exactly two hosts, one with a queen (Ripley) and one with a "warrior" alien for defense. So there is that... "solution".
If you really did not know that before, then I guess the whole scenario just got even stupider than before. You're welcome!
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