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The early 90s was the last distinctive era. Starting in the mid 90s we entered a weird limbo


The Grunge era of the early 90s was the very last time period that was truly distinctive. it was the last time that you could look at a photo or listen to a song or watch a movie and pinpoint it as being from that time.

In the mid-90s, just around the time the Internet became widely available, Western society entered this bland pop-hip-hop-CGI movie-reality TV era that we have been living in ever since. Aside from better computer technology, more extreme politics, terrorism and social decay and slightly different hairstyles, our time is much more similar to the mid-90s than the mid-90s were to the early 90s, 80s or 70s.

Seems kind of weird to make a nostalgia film about the mid 90s. Early 90s would have been better.

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You're right. I've noticed this before, especially in the way that I can go back and watch a movie that was made in the 90s (like The Game or The Rock or Fight Club) and, aside from perhaps some tell-tale signs like older technology, you could convince me that those films were made today. It's weird.

As you say, it's like we hit a some kind of wall once the Internet came along. Though we have seen one big difference from that time: Social media. The world was a different place before My Space and Facebook and Twitter came along.

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Most movies don't touch on social media in the story, except for some high-concept low-budget horrors.

Mostly when they're showing a social media plaform, say MySpace, it doesn't really have anything integral to the plot. We then simply dismiss them as some relics of the past just like when we see clamshell phones or CRT TVs / monitors in movies.

Social media hasn't affected movies much.

Movies even actively seeking to downplay social media like in Jumper (2008) when they had to mention that the main characters have the ability to erase their presence in social media (a scene which was there only to sidestep the impact of social media in our society.)

Not only that they don't regard social media, they purposely get around it as well.

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Being that I wrote that three years ago, I can't quite remember what I meant by that, but I suspect I had shifted more to thoughts on the way that the Internet has affected modern culture in general and not movies specifically.

Though in some movies social media does play heavily into the storyline, as you say.

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Don't forget the enormous JNCO jeans.

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I couldn't stand those jeans but if it meant bringing the 90's back for a day I would wear them.

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Surprisingly, the company has actually still been around all these years. They just went out of business in the last year or two.

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What an excellent post, whynotwriteme. I think we’re all aware, at one level or another, that we’re in a state of cultural mailaise. Everything is bland. Nothing truly exciting seems to loom on the horizon. We try to combat our desensitization by pursuing ever more coarse sensations: anger, violence, a celebration of social decay, the desire to pretend to change our gender by means of cosmetic surgery and hormone injections, nihilism and a glamorization of the trivial and the inconsequential (can you say “Kardashian”? Sure you can.). As Yeats wrote in “The Second Coming”: “The center cannot hold/The best lack all conviction/While the worst are filled with a passionate intensity”.

I think your points about social skills, and therefore society, eroding because techology allows people to insulate themselves from, and innure themselves to, their surroundings is astute. I think, however, there are one or two other factors that have led us to this zenith of technology intersecting with this nadir of culture.

The Baby Boom is collapsing. By the mid-90s, the youngest Baby Boomers had reached their mid-50s. The post-WWII Baby Boom was the most powerful cultural influence in US history. It even led to the notion of classifying history by decades, a notion that I think is dying out along with the Boomers. In the 50s, the Boomers were babies and children, so demand for more and better public education skyrocketed. The Boomers were teens in the 60s, and rock n’ roll became the dominant pop music form. The Boomers were terrified of dying in the Vietnam War and acted out their fear in acts of defiance against The Estsblishment, ranging from organized protests, disorganized riots, drug use and long hair on men. Flower Power tried to replace Gun Power. The Youth Movement culture carried over into the 70s to a large extent, especially the part about the drugs and, sometimes, about the high profits to be had from drug dealing. Not coincidentally, the Adult Entertainment industry

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edged its way into mainstream culture. The 70s also saw a slew of recent college graduate hustling to find college-level jobs in the most depressed US economy since the Depression. This manic pursuit of The Dollar led the Boomers into the 80s as Yuppies, not Yippies (The name for members of the radical Youth In Politics party of the 60s). It was the age of greed and excess, Dallas and Dynasty, huge hair and huge shoulder pads for fashionable ladies. Facing their mortality, the Boomers started jogging, playing rackeball and wearing leg warmers and headbands. Drugs were now being made by designers, and so were men’s underpants. Pong, the world’s first and most boring video game, was released.

The 90s happened mainly because the calander flipped to a new page. The Boomers didn’t really give a crap about Grunge. The Boomers now had kids of their own, and they were trying to keep them off drugs, in part because they feared the kids would snort up the Boomers’ stash.

And that brings us to where we are today. There is one other MAJOR cultural influence in the second half of the 20th century to consider. We’ve made a big deal about the Millennials being the first generation never to have known a world without computers. Consider this: for the first time in history, every person alive on this planet has lived in fear of nuclear war. One blink, one cough, and we’re all dust in the wind. It’s a depressing, petrifying awareness. So we no longer have a massive cultural influence coming from a single generation, and our hopes for tomorrow run smack up against the reality that there may be no tomorrow. Not the kind of conditions conducive to creating any more Defining Cultural Moments.

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Portable phones killed it more than computers per se. However, this is not the end. Something unforeseen will replace phones, maybe zombies?

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Telepathy enabled by computers will soon supplant phones

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It's been noted.

I believe it's called 'The Long 90s.'

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It is over now. After COVID things got weirder, but we could see the signs earlier with Trump winning elections and other events. I'm talking in societal, technological, political and economic sense. Nothing so exciting on the cultural side. People are either aculutral or stuck in retro cultures. Subcultures are dying out.

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Plus the tranny thing has started to define this decade.

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Every age has its symbols - hippies, cold war, heavy metal, space race... Trannies are what 21st century produced so far. But I'm still optimistic.

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Trannies are merely a tool. By themselves they're an insignificant 0.3% of the population and that 0.3% aren't really in agreement. The goal is unisex and end of gender. The concept of 100 genders was designed to render gender obsolete.

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Absolutely. The end of gender is an extension of the efforts to erase tradition and the classic notions of the self so that humanity can be reformulated, reinvented and repurposed in fashions not yet entirely clear; a true New World Order.

That this also results in a reduction of population in a large enough scale of time, or at least a reduction in population growth, is another asset supporting this revaluation.

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They tried it in China with Mao suits. Lol. They'll keep pushing until they achieve their goal.

It started with feminism. It's hilarious how it came back and hit them in the face when biological males began competing in women's sports. Not sure how they'll get around that one yet.

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Don't tell that to all of the strong, independent, free thinkers in the LGBTQLMNOP movement.

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I'm a strong independent LGB free thinker. I assure you, check out any gay forum, we don't believe trans people have anything to do with us. We also celebrate gender - maybe too much!

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